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    01-12-2014, 08:34 PM
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Foal
horse soured or barn spoiled?

I bought a 4-5 yr old QH last month, just green broke. He doesn't seem to want to really ride without other horses, sometimes he will go once, come back & try to start it all over, he doesn't want to go again. He always seems to want to head back to the pasture with the other horses & barn. I've worked him in a circle before starting to ride, to get his attn., & I lead him away from the pasture & horses before I get on him. So I try riding him once we r away (a good distance) from the barn & other horses. Doesn't really want to go more then 30' I guess, & he will start trying to turn around to head back to the barn. I will turn him in circles to try & get him to go the way I'm wanting to go & he might go a bit then trying to turn around on his on again toward the barn. What would be some good corrective training without being too hard for this situation? I am planning on taking him completely away from all horses for a few months, would that be the best thing? Thanks in advance for the advice, I also would like to apologize if this subject has been ran into the ground on here, I did a search, but didn't find too much.
     
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    01-12-2014, 08:44 PM
  #2
Trained
He's not spoiled or soured, he is being disrespectful towards you. Not listening, not focusing, your just not as interesting as the other horses.

Taking him away from other horses completely is a bad idea. Its actually terrible to do. Horses are herd animals and most will not feel safe without the security of a 'herd'. They can also become depressed/ill from ulcers/stress while alone.

My advice is to find a trainer to work with you with him. He needs a firm hand you have have to make him realize that when he leaves, he will be coming back so it's not a big deal to go for a trail ride alone.

Take him out and walk away from the pasture. When he throws a hissy fit, keep coming to a certain point, and then turn around and head back. Repeatedly doing this will make him easier to handle and more comfortable away from the 'security' of his herd. When he starts to jig towards home as most horses will do, you turn in circles, back him or head back the opposite way so he's not walking all over you or rushing to get back.

I'd carry a dressage/lunge whip too if I were you. When he resists, you whop him in the butt and make him go. You asked him to do something...and he needs to do it. Having the whip as a reinforcement will really be helpful. Just carrying it will mean that you mean business.

Patience will be a virtue.
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    01-12-2014, 09:02 PM
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Foal
I do ride with a quirt, I got off today in the middle of his stubborn spell & worked him in a circle. I know he is being disrespectful towards me & testing me. When I use a switch or my quirt on his tail he tends to want to start backing or hopping around. He doesn't like spurs.

When leading him away from the pasture & other horses he doesn't really act up, he just does it when im trying to ride him. I have tried the return to a certain point with him, & he just never wants to turn & go back, usually he just starts going the opposite way from the rein im pulling on. So I get off & (not sure of the name of the technique) but I pull one rein until he gives me his head where my knee would be on the saddle. Thank yee.
     
    01-13-2014, 02:02 AM
  #4
Yearling
He's young and green, he's got to build some confidence.......if he is trying to turn around and go home make his feet move, do circles, serpentines, figure 8's, anything to keep his mind on you and not worrying about going back to the barn....
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    01-13-2014, 06:14 PM
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Green Broke
Heading back to barn at a point horse decides "here and no further" only will make this worse, as horse will start shutting down at entrance to barn IF you can get it that far, that is.

Do not drink anything, go to bathroom before you mount up.

Go and when horse shuts down, make sure it is facing the way YOU want to ride, and then just sit there. Period. No urging, no battling, no clucking/kicking/kissing. Do NOTHING. And don't talk.

Just sit.

Horse may try to turn to barn and calmly and quietly, turn horse back to where you are wanting to go. And then sit.

IF horse makes a step in that direction, merely let it go that way. Do NOT praise, pat or talk. Just ride.

The very instant it shuts down again? Sit there.

As long as horse is facing the way you are wanting to go, do nothing. If horse tries to turn around, put it back facing way you want, and then be quiet and sit.

Do not battle at all, nor urge horse on.

Taking away the fight/battle, and remaining calm, will work wonders here. Horse won't have anything to throw a fit over, or refuse.

And again, no talking. No patting or praising at any point.

When horse gets bored and moves on out, be prepared for it to stall again, and just sit if it does.

It will get tired of this, and decide riding isn't that bad after all.

You can also, if you can mount easily, take a ration of grain out and at the furthermost point of your ride, you can grain horse....that will break the "oh I am going to eat at barn" thought.

However, you might be well served to have a trainer put a finish on this horse too, if you aren't that experienced, as two greenies together usually don't work well.

But again. Taking a horse back to the barn to "work him" or letting a horse decide where it wants to stop, is a bad thing to get in habit of. In the former, the horse doesn't see it is being worked as punishment, it sees it as "I am back at barn"....and in the latter, horse will simply learn it doesn't have to go anywhere at all.
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    01-14-2014, 09:02 AM
  #6
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I agree with the above, you are obviously not experienced enough to use a whip or spurs to insist he goes forward so, do the sit it out method.
The only thing I would say is when he wants to turn towards home and if he manages to get around make sure you turn him back against the way he turned. If he turns right, you turn him back left or the other way.
     

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