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    02-15-2012, 07:42 PM
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Foal
Horse Spooks VERY easy

I have a horse that is about 3.5 years old. When we first got her the lady rode her over to the house. There were dogs barking, cars passing etc. I rode her 3 times and then.....well then she started bucking me off.

She bucked me off the first time and I got right back up on her and rode her for a little while longer.

The second time she bucked my daughter off. We were just standing there and the horse bucked for no reason.

If I have the lead rope just walking this horse and even raise my hand she freaks out. You can't make ANY sudden movement or the will just about kill herself trying to get away.

I was walking her the other day...no saddle, just a lead rope. We were doing fine and there was a small piece of PVC pipe on the ground and she stepped over it will all her feet but as her back foot went across it barely touched it and made a sound. The horse started bucking up with her front legs.....she slipped in the mud and fell down feet going every which way....and ended up sitting on her butt like a dog would sit. She was breathing really heavy out of her nose and was completely freaked out. I still had her lead rope and I was talking to her trying to calm her down. She eventually calmed down and we went back to the fence and all was okay.

Yesterday I got a friend over who is really good with horses and much better than me at riding and he tried to ride her. When she stepped on a small stick and it broke beneath her feet she freaked out .....started coming up with her front legs and eventually threw him. She then ran straight for me and the look in her eyes was that of sheer terror.

I don't think she bucks to be mean but she is actually scared for her life.

I was talking to a person the other day and he said that a horse that is THAT spooked will be hard to un-spook.

What are your thoughts on this?

The lady who gave us the horse rescues horses and I really do love the horse.....but she seems crazy and when she does that it makes me nervous. I would never let my kids on this horse and im to the point now to where im scared to get on her.

She has been with us since December and she seems to be making our other horses more nervous and crazy. She also seems to be getting worse herself.

The lady said she would gladly take the horse back to her place but I really do like her and would rather keep her if possible.

Here is the lady I speak of.





     
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    02-15-2012, 07:53 PM
  #2
Foal
Pwesonally, I'd say learn and do Join Up with her (Monty Roberts) and do loooadssss of groundwork until she's really good in-hand so you can lead her passt anything. Try to desensitise to tarpaulins, bags etc using NH GENTLE techniques to gain her trust. Then I'd use Monty Roberts's way of backing her, real sloww and nice so you can just build up from the beginning. Don't expect it to be fast, just enjoy the ride :)
Bear in mind that where you ogt her from may not have trained her, and she may have had bad experiences if she was a rescue, so may take a while to come round.
If you think she's too difficult, are looking for.a kid safe horse, or are getting scared yourself, it may be better to look for another, older horse. Personally, I think she's lovely though!! Tough decision - good luck!! :)
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    02-15-2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by harryclifford    
Pwesonally, I'd say learn and do Join Up with her (Monty Roberts) and do loooadssss of groundwork until she's really good in-hand so you can lead her passt anything. Try to desensitise to tarpaulins, bags etc using NH GENTLE techniques to gain her trust. Then I'd use Monty Roberts's way of backing her, real sloww and nice so you can just build up from the beginning. Don't expect it to be fast, just enjoy the ride :)
Bear in mind that where you ogt her from may not have trained her, and she may have had bad experiences if she was a rescue, so may take a while to come round.
If you think she's too difficult, are looking for.a kid safe horse, or are getting scared yourself, it may be better to look for another, older horse. Personally, I think she's lovely though!! Tough decision - good luck!! :)
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Thanks for the info. I will look into Monty Roberts.....I have only had horses since December so I am new to much of it. Been learning a lot and enjoying it.

I think she is beautiful also and that is why I would love for her to be a horse I could ride.
     
    02-15-2012, 08:03 PM
  #4
Weanling
Desensitize Desensitize Desensitize! And harryclifford is right on track with joining up. And honestly I would be careful about making her a kids horse. I have worked with my 2 1/2 yr old for 5 months everyday when she was 17 months I have been the only one who has worked with her, she has always been level headed and super lazy calm. I have never seen her spook and "act silly" I warm her up before I put anyone on her, and I can put anyone on her and trust that they are in good hands but I still don't consider her kid safe. If you want her to eventually be kid safe she's going to be alot of consistent work, My advice is LOTS of lunging/ ground work and LOTS of desensitizing!

Do you know how to Desensitize?
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    02-15-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by farley    
Desensitize Desensitize Desensitize! And harryclifford is right on track with joining up. And honestly I would be careful about making her a kids horse. I have worked with my 2 1/2 yr old for 5 months everyday when she was 17 months I have been the only one who has worked with her, she has always been level headed and super lazy calm. I have never seen her spook and "act silly" I warm her up before I put anyone on her, and I can put anyone on her and trust that they are in good hands but I still don't consider her kid safe. If you want her to eventually be kid safe she's going to be alot of consistent work, My advice is LOTS of lunging/ ground work and LOTS of desensitizing!

Do you know how to Desensitize?
I have read some on it and been watching some of the shows on RDFTV but I can't say that I actually KNOW how to desensitize.

I am going to buy a round pen prob. Next week. Right now we have a large fenced in area and when she gets spooked its very easy for her to run 20 acres away from you. I need a smaller area to work with her in and I think a round pen may be best for this. Am I right in thinking this?

Is there a particular size pen that would be good for this?
     
    02-15-2012, 09:08 PM
  #6
Weanling
You don't need a round pen I never use one just a fifteen ft rope and rope halter works best for getting attention.
I don't know for round pen size it varies. For starting young horse you want smaller but for riding and general work maybe medium to large which also varies depending on who you are talking to.
And here is an example to Desensitize.
If your horse is scared with of a plastic bag you need to stand at a 45 degree angle to your horses shoulder and shake the bag. Keep doing it till their feet stop, then you stop ASAP. Never try to force a stop just keep with him and keep shaking. He will learn that as along as he stands till what he is scared of will eventually go away. When he finally stand quietly while you shake work on touching him with it it helps if its on the end of something then reach out an lay it on him if he run away from it keep it touching him an when his feet stop take it away.
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    02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by farley    
you don't need a round pen I never use one just a fifteen ft rope and rope halter works best for getting attention.
I don't know for round pen size it varies. For starting young horse you want smaller but for riding and general work maybe medium to large which also varies depending on who you are talking to.
And here is an example to Desensitize.
If your horse is scared with of a plastic bag you need to stand at a 45 degree angle to your horses shoulder and shake the bag. Keep doing it till their feet stop, then you stop ASAP. Never try to force a stop just keep with him and keep shaking. He will learn that as along as he stands till what he is scared of will eventually go away. When he finally stand quietly while you shake work on touching him with it it helps if its on the end of something then reach out an lay it on him if he run away from it keep it touching him an when his feet stop take it away.

The thing is....with this horse, if she gets scared she will kill herself getting away. She don't just stand there and move her feet. She breaks and runs. You CANNOT hold her and she has 30 acres to run away on. When she can run 30 acres away it makes it hard because she feels like that is the answer because it removed the threat. I need a smaller area I feel so she can't actually get away.
     
    02-15-2012, 09:29 PM
  #8
Weanling
Well then definitely get something smaller, but I would still keep her on a lead otherwise she will think that its a type of lunging and will make things worse.
     
    02-15-2012, 09:46 PM
  #9
Green Broke
I will agree that you need to do ground work with her. Not just for desensitizing, but to get her respect and trust. Your lack of knowledge of horses causes you to be unconfident and nervous. She can read that from your body language. The reason she was fine with the previous owner was because she trusted and looked to the owner for direction. If you are nervous and unsure, she can't look to you for the reassurance she needs. She starts going back to her instincts which are flight or fight, in another way, be nervous and spooky.

Do you do any ground work with her? If you don't know how, maybe get some help from a more experienced person or trainer. We can try to explain, but someone that can give you hands on help and correct your mistakes is so much better.
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    02-16-2012, 02:10 AM
  #10
Yearling
Dude, totally not trying to be a downer but it seems like you might not be ready for this horse yet. A person has to be pretty experienced to ride these young ones exactly for the reasons you're finding out. The solution is that you need to be an offensive rather than a defensive rider, which you can only do when you're feeling confident and in-control. Usually that either means having years of experience or still being young enough to not think you can die haha. What I mean by being an offensive rider is that you have enough experience to be able to know what the horse is going to do before she does it and the confidence as a rider to re-direct that energy before a wreck happens. I know it can seem like it, but horses don't do things for no reason. There's always a precursor to what happens and if you don't know what it is, you're in trouble. Unfortunately there's no way for anyone to really tell you what that is, you learn a lot of it from experience, but DVDs can be a pretty good resource. Chris Cox has some pretty good demonstrations with horses that buck and you can get those from giddyupflix.com. That's where I'd start if you want to try and fix the problem yourself.

Though having the woman offer to take her back is a pretty good deal. Less experienced riders generally need more experienced horses. Depending on how determined you are lol.
     

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