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post #11 of 14 Old 01-30-2013, 03:39 PM
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I use a mechanical hackamore (short shank, flat fleeced line noseband and leather curb strap) for trail riding. Is that the style you used? Or is it the long shanked, hard nose band ones? Those ones are super easy to often unintentionally turn into something harsh and uncomfortable for the horse. I must say, to date and after many years of riding with them, I`ve yet to find a horse that didn`t like my style.

One thing caught my eye in your post: your horse has navicular apparently. It may be that cantering out on the trail (uneven, hard ground, little stones, etc.) may be causing him pain that causes him to act up.
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post #12 of 14 Old 01-30-2013, 04:07 PM
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It also could be that at this horses age, and your weight, that there are some major pain issues going on. I am concerned that you feel his being ungraceful and your being large might flip him over.

Might not have anything to do with hackamore, but just popped up at same time.

But if horse is doing what you describe? You have no business taking him out on trail rides period. You can't control him, and he is a danger to others and their horses too.

Teeth, jaw, bars, ears, poll? Vet check by a equine vet would be what I would do. But I really think this horse is just too old to do the cantering and the long rides, especially if you are a larger human.

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Palomine, If you had read my posts you would have read that I have taken him to the vet recently (did a full work up including many x-ray studies). The vet advise me to keep him working as I have been, he is in great shape and should be able to handle the riding as I have been and that is what has kept him in great shape. Yes I'm 5'10 and bigger than your average girl but the vet told me not to worry about my size/weight on him and that he should be able to handle it just fine (I did ask, and we did take spine x-rays because I wanted to make sure he was ok).
I guess I'm exaggerating a bit when I say "taking off", I dont mean he is running wild and crazed, I mean he is taking to long to respond to my cues at the canter (maybe an extra 20 feet before he listens when before he use to be instant) I can handle my horse just fine and if an emergency arises I could get him to stop If I absolutely needed him to (the only time I had a very hard time & it took a long time to stop him was when I was riding him in a halter and even then I was still able to make him stop before anything bad could happen) - it's the fact that he's not responding like he use to and I want to enjoy riding him not fighting with him that is my problem and i shouldn't have argue with him to stop. I'm not scared of him or feel he is a danger to me or others, in fact even if he kept doing this he would still be 10x better than most horses I have ridden or had to ride with.
Age has nothing to do with physical ability its the body and shape it is in, he is in better shape than some younger horses Ive ridden. If the vet had told me he was unable to do the activity or unable to handle my size then I wouldnt ride him, but he encouraged me to continue and keep him active.
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post #14 of 14 Old 01-31-2013, 07:22 AM
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I just think he got a little 'wise'. I don't think you have any other problems.

I would bet that if you teach him to give you his head at all three gaits, he will come right back to listening to you. If he doesn't, he will know what to do when you ask for his head.

Did you read the link I gave you? If you teach it that way, you do not have to worry about taking his head away from him as the canter. He'll just 'half halt' and then come to an immediate stop. But, most horses that thought about going through a bit before, will just listen and stop.

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