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    02-12-2012, 11:05 AM
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Foal
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I've been leasing this horse for 6 months now, a 26 year old Morgan mare she's never been the best horse to mount. At first, she would just walk off once I got on her but I fixed this. She was good mounting for a month or two, then she started swinging her hips away from the mounting block. She did this one or two times, then stood quietly so I just thought she was playing games. When I mounted slowly, she would stand perfectly still. But yesterday, she swung her hips away for about a half hour, since I only ride for about 30 minutes anyways (because of her age) I ran out of time and I couldn't ride. I tried to keep her head bent towards me, but that would just make her swing her hips out even more. Then I tried walking her around the mounting block a few times. This worked, but the second I pit my foot in the stirrup she would swing her hips away. What should I do?
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    02-12-2012, 11:13 AM
  #2
Weanling
Im subbing so I can see other's replies. My mare did I similar thing when I first started riding her. I always used a mounting block and would have to follow her around in circles just to get on. The more I rode her the less she would do it though. She will still take a step or two away if we are in a new place but it doesn't take that long. I have no idea how I "should" be handling it, but I think an important thing is to make sure you do mount her by the end of the session. If she's learning to do it as evasion and you do not get on, its working!

Maybe a possibility is you are pressing your toe in her rib when you get on?
     
    02-12-2012, 11:21 AM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by attackships    
im subbing so I can see other's replies. My mare did I similar thing when I first started riding her. I always used a mounting block and would have to follow her around in circles just to get on. The more I rode her the less she would do it though. She will still take a step or two away if we are in a new place but it doesn't take that long. I have no idea how I "should" be handling it, but I think an important thing is to make sure you do mount her by the end of the session. If she's learning to do it as evasion and you do not get on, its working!

Maybe a possibility is you are pressing your toe in her rib when you get on?
Yeah I wouldn't normally just give up like that but I had to be somewhere so I was pressed on time... I lunged her for a few minutes so that she wouldnt be under the impression that doing that would get her out of work. I make sure that I barely touch her side with my foot, so I don't think that toeing her would be a possibility
     
    02-12-2012, 01:56 PM
  #4
Foal
What about jumping off in front of her and backing her up a long distance, every time she does it? Then walk her to the block and try again. That would be making the right thing easy and the wrong thing difficult.

Have you ever heard of Clinton Anderson's "sending" exercise? I'm not sure how to explain it. Maybe someone else can. Do the exercise until she gets closer and closer to the block. Make her hussle until she's standing next to it. Then, let her relax.

Good luck:)
     
    02-12-2012, 01:59 PM
  #5
Foal
One more idea. Can you mount her from the ground? Put her against a wall so she can't move away and mount her a bunch of times. Give her praise each time and then get off and do it again.
     
    02-12-2012, 02:08 PM
  #6
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Originally Posted by lauraetco    
One more idea. Can you mount her from the ground? Put her against a wall so she can't move away and mount her a bunch of times. Give her praise each time and then get off and do it again.
That was going to be my suggestion as well, but you could still use a mounting block.
     
    02-12-2012, 02:22 PM
  #7
Foal
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
That was going to be my suggestion as well, but you could still use a mounting block.
Oh yeah. Dah! Just move the mounting block...lol. Use a fence if you don't have an arena but I wouldn't do it next to an electrical fence. I would think that would be too dangerous.
     
    02-12-2012, 04:21 PM
  #8
Yearling
My new horse does this and just due to lack of an empty ring at the times I normally ride I haven't been able to do the training with him. While he stands perfectly still if the mounting block is in a corner, he will do the same thing, swing his back end away or step forward when the mounting block is in the center of the ring.

Laura mentioned Clinton Anderson's methods. Rather than the sending method, I use the hindquarters yield for mounting block issues. Essentially, when the horse moves, make her move. I hold the reins, step back to the flank and make the horse spin a few times. I stop them, give them a pat and move back to the block and try to mount. If the horse moves again, I repeat. Eventually the horse decides it is much easier and nicer to hold still then to go into those spins or be forced to work. Before doing this just make sure you have protective boots on just as a precaution. The spins don't have to be particualrly fast...just make her move her feet.

Another similar method might be to have a lunge line attached. If the horse moves, lunge at a good strong trot, go back to the block and try again..repeat as needed. The only issue there is that when you do finally mount you would have to figure out how to unsnap the lunge line :)

The last horse I had was a proverbial terror at the block and it took me 15 mins of the hindquarters yield exercise before he would finally stand still. He never moved off again and I could mount with a loose rein.

As an explanation for the sending exercise, it is sort of like a lunge on a quarter circle (or a straight line). Rather than have the horse circle around you, you "lunge" in one direction until the hindquarters pass you then stop the horse. Change directions and lunge the horse in the other direction, again, stopping them just after the hindquarters pass. The horse should never get to your side or behind you when doing this exercise. I used to have fun with this one with my last horse, doing this same exercise wihtout stopping with him going back and forth in front of me while I was walking from one end of the ring to the other.
     
    02-12-2012, 05:17 PM
  #9
rob
Weanling
Jm,you stated that you have the nose bent to you,reverse it.bend the nose away from you,preferably with your reins in your right hand,and bring the hips to you.
     
    02-13-2012, 11:18 AM
  #10
Yearling
I, personally, don't like wedging a horse against anything for mounting. After training tons of green horses I have found it the best way to get a massive explosion. Generally horses fidget at mounting because they are excited, stressed or fearful... None of those are "acceptable" mounting energy, to me.

Rob's suggestion works really well for horses who are toying with you a bit... Their butt goes in the opposite direction of their head... Turn the head away and the butt should come to you. This only works if the horse is not nervous about the block or being mounted though... Otherwise you can wind up with the horse on the block with you.

Alternatively, spend a day at the block. Stand on it and ask the horse to move around it... Like lunging from up high, you need not get them fired up, you don't want mounting to be a high energy exercise, just move their feet at a walk, they must walk calmly around it with some slack in the lead or reins before you stop, Then ask them to go the other way... Then ask them to stand quietly... Alternate between having the go around the block and halting until they halt straight, Then ask for them to move the hips away, and back towards you (use a dressage whip or horseman stick... Or flag or whatever is handy and works) - use the outside rein to help bring the hindquarters towards you if need be.

Do it until you can put that horse where ever you want it... THEN get on... And off... And on... And off, until they will line up and stand. Some horses this takes half an hour, others will take you the afternoon.
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