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post #11 of 20 Old 02-13-2012, 11:25 AM
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My horse does this.. now there's two ways I personally go about it.

If he swings them towards me, he gets a cupped hand whap. It makes a lot of noise and doesn't hurt and he swings away from me. I do this because it's dangerous behavior swinging his butt at me!

Now if my horse swings away from the mounting block, I move the mounting block and keep prompting him to do a turn on the forehand, then the haunches, then I back him up and then send him forward. This is usually enough to get his head spinning with the thought of "WOAH where did all this work come from?" So he tries again, and I repeat in a different order. Sometimes I go on the other end and make him do a sidepass or turn on the forehand until he learns his lesson.

So long as you end on a forward note and make sure the mare doesn't anticipate your next move. If she starts turning around because you move sides or towards her hip when you didn't ask, then undo the move she just did.

What also helps is mounting with a pole on the side she swings out to, it's a lot more work to lift and get over.

There's lots of ways to fix it.. just don't do something out of anger, always focus on teaching wrong answer vs. right answer.

You could also stand on the mounting block and direct her via inside rein where to go. Don't stop her until she's standing near the mounting block to where you can get on.

Now if she's nervous about the block, it doesn't hurt to desensitize her to it.

Good luck :)

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At 26 and a lease horse, she's probably just a smart ol' gal who knows how to get away with things like that, and not just being fidgety. Yes you are turning her head the wrong way. The horse is like a ship, if you turn their head one way, the hind end is going to swing the opposite direction. Since you are trying to keep her hind end towards you, you can try turning her head to the right. But what it all comes down to is respect. She doesn't respect you, as you say she walks away as well. You need to make her understand when you say WHOA, you mean WHOA. No letting her walk off when you get on. You mount up, make her stand there for a few minutes. If she tries to walk forward, correct her immediately and make her back up to where she was. If she takes ONE STEP sideways, don't just try to climb on anyways, put her back in place. I'm guessing once she figures out you mean business she'll give up. Lots of good advice from the others as well.
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Originally Posted by lauraetco View Post
One more idea. Can you mount her from the ground? Put her against a wall so she can't move away and mount her a bunch of times. Give her praise each time and then get off and do it again.
I might try the sending exercise if she does this again, I am tempted to just put her against the wall but if I have to get on without a wall I feel like I'll have more of a problem...
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post #14 of 20 Old 02-13-2012, 06:13 PM
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One caution on the sending exercise. Make sure you can trust the horse not to kick as you are getting the horse to pass in a more or less straight line which means the haunches are close when they pass in front of you.
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post #15 of 20 Old 02-22-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tlkng1 View Post
One caution on the sending exercise. Make sure you can trust the horse not to kick as you are getting the horse to pass in a more or less straight line which means the haunches are close when they pass in front of you.
If your horse is nervous enough to kick at the block, it needs better ground training before you get on... Period. Horses almost always kick because they feel they need to get away from something, and can't... This nevousness will eventually blow up on you if it isn't addressed prior to mounting.
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post #16 of 20 Old 02-22-2012, 02:49 PM
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subbing: i have this same problem with my mare. i know i can never let her win, but after chasing her and circling her and etc for an hour i finally just mount her as she moving away, so she doesn't "win". its aggrevating!

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post #17 of 20 Old 02-22-2012, 03:24 PM
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What I did (I don't bother anymore, because her new owner is ruining her anyways, and I refuse to train her horse while I'm paying) was take my crop or a dressage whip up onto the block with me (did a similar thing on the ground to train her to ground-tie and stand when I said stand) and each time she would swing her hips out, she got a whack on the opposite flank that moved her back in. I only had to do it a few times and she'll stand absolutely perfect for me 99.8% of the time, even though she won't stand at all for her new owner (I know, I'm a horrible person by putting her down, but I tried the educating approach and got told how to train a horse I was asked to work with, with snide remarks).
If I'm still onthe ground after walking her up to the block, I'll just go ahead and shove her over, literally. She's gotten the idea.

I normally mount from the ground (which is the only thing I still work with her on, since owner refuses to mount without the block), and I generally take the end of my lead (or the dressage whip) and whack the leg she moved as soon as she starts to move it. I did the same thing for standing ground-tied. I found that (now) if I have her ground-tie, I can do whatever I want (walk away, go to the bathroom, have a smoke, run circles around her, mount, jump around, etc) and she won't do more than cock a back hoof. So, good ground-tying=good mounting. In my experience. :p
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post #18 of 20 Old 02-22-2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PaintCowgirl View Post
subbing: i have this same problem with my mare. i know i can never let her win, but after chasing her and circling her and etc for an hour i finally just mount her as she moving away, so she doesn't "win". its aggrevating!
The key to something sticking is to have the time to fight till the last second of the day.

What I mean by "fight" isn't rough or physical.. it's a game. You are in it to win it. Your horse will never change its ways if you time out before the game has been won.

Meaning, you have to have ample patience. You cannot mount the horse when your horse can't stand. She wins, and she learned nothing.

I'm not drilling on you, I'm just trying to help you see that it'll only get worse if you don't teach her to stand.

If that means making her stand for 10 minutes, 15, 45, an hour without moving, undoing every move she makes (like if she steps forward 2 steps, sideways 5 steps and turns on her haunches, then make her turn on her haunches the other way, go sideways the other way 5 steps and back her up 2 steps.) When she stands, then you've won that battle. Release pressure by sending her off to walk, or asking her to walk on as that is what she wants.. but only on YOUR cue. Not a second earlier.

Yes it's very lengthy and boring and whatnot, but you get results. You just have to be a rock during the process, and learn when to release pressure and step away on a good note. If that means you don't ride, then try again tomorrow. Just get the result, and end on a good note.

Patience, consistency, and more patience.


Same to the OP. Win the battle. Don't give up because you're frustrated. If you don't have time to win, then don't even take your horse out to mount. Do something else like ground work or an in-hand trail ride or a nice grooming session.

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post #19 of 20 Old 02-22-2012, 05:26 PM
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You pretty much just described ransom, he likes to do anything he can so I can't get on him..I just place him against the wall and walk him over to the mounting block (that's important) also, make sure that if he move him back to the mounting block (NEVER: bring the mounting block to him)

Hope I helped :))
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post #20 of 20 Old 02-22-2012, 09:03 PM
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Put wheels on your mounting block lol I personally would not do that but what I would do is back her to Florida every time she spun she will catch on that spinning ant going to get her nowhere
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