ive given miover a pop with the whip on the butt, but he also threatens to charge, should i just let him charge me? if its so wrong to to hit them with the whip?
really i dont see why u put a video on here and have people diss these people, who are we to judge? i know for sure that i am not perfect,i know ive made mistakes.
but to share a video that is not urs and have people on another site critising them without them here to defend themselves i just dont think its right, and its stuff like this thats going to be arguments, over circumstances we dont know, i just dont find this constructive on a suportive horse forum
First question:
I absolutely WILL pop a horse on the rump, shoulder, or even the nose if he does something that needs that level of pressure. If he charged me, as you mention, I'd have the whip up there swinging, and he can choose to either run into the whip and get smacked, or not.
If I asked with my body, then with a little movement from the lunge whip and neither of these got a bit of a change out of the horse, I'd put the whip down hard, on the ground first. I don't have to hit the horse to get a change. If it IS required to hit the horse to get a change, (meaning the other, lower intensity things did NOT get a change), then I will. But the instant the horse moves out, the pressure ceases.
Pressure has to be meaningfull. it can only have meaning if it's applied, something changes , and then it's released. Horse says "Oh, so that's what gets me a reward. I'll do that the next time I feel that light pressure, 'cause I don't want to be smacked again".
If you swing the lunge whip non stop, it has no meaning any more. it become noise. Loud noise, from which the hrose must flee in a panic, and from which there is no escape, even if he does go forward (which would normally earn a hrose a reward).
Second point;
this is tough to call. We allow folks to post all kinds of videos to demonstarte some kind of technique they want to teach. Remember the ones posted on your lunging thread? those were just randomly taken off of you tube. They were being held up as examples of what to do. this is an example of what not to do.
However, as I said, if we cannot seperate a critique of the method from a dissing of the person, then the thread cannot stay.
As for you, on your thread, you have been very honest about your issues and your mistakes and have been willing to accept new ideas and guidance. Do you not think you are also learning something from THIS thread?
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anyone learning anything from this thread?