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        05-01-2009, 03:46 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Just want to clarify that some of those famous trainers are really good. I do like Clinton Anderson and I do believe he is probably one of the best out there. But gosh I have seen some famous trainer seminars that would make your toes curl. Its all about "buy my lead rope" "buy my round pen" ughhh. I take a little bit from each trainer/horseperson (famous or not) that I meet and apply it to my situation.

    I do understand people are new to horses and its a different world. But I still say common sense has to prevail.

    I do agree on getting a mentor! So many of these things don't make sense unless you SEE IT in front of you. Its very hard to type out all the little things that is in a persons head and convey that in type. I have been very lucky to have some awesome mentors

    I am not a "trainer" and when I help people I do it for free. Partly because I feel compelled to pay it back (as my mentors did with me) and partly because I am an amatuer show person and cannot be compensated for training. All I ask is they cover my gas. I am so passionate about horses that I don't mind doing it as long as they will apply what I give them. Especially when it comes to small equine as they get a bad rep as being mean and onery when its actually that they are pretty dang smart and know how to work owners

    But please if you ask for advice---(NOTHING wrong with asking for help!) please be open to what people are saying. Like G&K said don't ask for help and then say "that wont work" "but" "I can't do that" etc etc.
         
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        05-01-2009, 09:14 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I am wondering why you would get a horse before you knew anything about horses? Isn't that like having a baby when you know nothing about them? Horses take a lot more work than a lot of people think and a lot A LOT of attention and money, same as a kid... So wouldn't you educate yourself before buying one? Even if you have the basics of horse care common sense is still common sense. It does not matter that we are "predators", We also have compassion, there is a reason we are the smartest species. Our common sense is there whether you know about the topic or not... I know very very little about computers, but common sense tells me that if I hit that button it will put the letter on the screen, common sense isn't going to make you a professional trainer, but it does tell you that "hey if I am riding and my horse pins his ears, he is unhappy".... So common sense has its definite place in horses, and everything....
         
        05-01-2009, 09:54 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Ohhh countrygal,
    There is not enough common sense in the business to blow up an ant hill.
    This is mostly all about emotion and ego for most folks.
    People buy horses because their next door neighbor bought one or it's cute or whatever.
    People also buy the wrong horse for their needs.
    The horse is too tall too short too thin,no training,and no place to keep the horse etc.

    Happens every day!
         
        05-02-2009, 12:40 AM
      #14
    Started
    But please if you ask for advice---(NOTHING wrong with asking for help!) please be open to what people are saying. Like G&K said don't ask for help and then say "that wont work" "but" "I can't do that" etc etc.

    I know what you're saying there. I have read posts where the person just wouldn't do what was advised. I can certainly understand your frustration. Please don't let that stop you from helping others though. I promise you that if I post a thread seeking help (and there are plenty others like me) then I am doing so because I really need help and I will try any suggestions given (unless I feel that they could cause serious injury to my horse). For those of you out there giving us noobs help, I give you my thanks. Please don't be discouraged by those peeps that will not take good advice. It is their loss!!!
         
        05-02-2009, 12:55 AM
      #15
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    I LOVE clinton anderson, im not a hard core member but I like his work. I don't see what is soo bad about natural horsemanship traing!! It is proven to work and does work. Look at all of clinton andersons horses, there amazing. Look at all the wild mustangs that do amazingly after that kind of training. Different people like different things, I like clinton the best because he is soft ang gentle but if the horse is not going to listen to him he makes the horse work his butt off. He shows the horse that I am boss and you are not.
         
        05-02-2009, 01:32 AM
      #16
    Foal
    Quote:
    Happens every day!
    I know it does *sigh* and its really sad... people should know what they are getting into before they do it...
         
        05-02-2009, 06:12 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    I have nothing against natural horsemanship! But some people don't truly understand it and take it way too far. They take it to mean "let my horse walk all over me and then just talk to him about it" LOL.

    In a nutshell its this
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    He shows the horse that I am boss and you are not.
    So many people seem unable to do this.
         
        05-02-2009, 08:29 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Countrygal892000    
    Isn't that like having a baby when you know nothing about them?
    You mean like half the breeding population our there? It's always been my feeling that you should have to pass a test beofre your allowed to have children......
         
        05-02-2009, 09:04 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by G and K's Mom    
    You mean like half the breeding population our there? It's always been my feeling that you should have to pass a test beofre your allowed to have children......

    Haha yea I agree. Spay and neuter the lower quality ones! Haha!


    This is a good thread! I think I'm in the same boat as you weefoal. I show amatuer too and it always seems like I'm helping people and they never listen. It is very frustrating! If only I were a trainer then they would be great job security!

    I personally love Clinton Anderson but I don't go out buy all his stuff. I get what I need from watching RFD-TV lol! That's free.
         
        05-03-2009, 01:37 AM
      #20
    Foal
    LMAO.... I honestly think we should make a test for having kids... But you know... they do send little plastic baby dolls that cry home for kids to "learn" how tough a baby really is... I did it in eighth grade and having a plastic doll for five nights was nothing... it taught me nothing except that I am too old to play with dolls.... But it really is sad how the age of children (CHILDREN) keeps getting younger and younger for them having babies, well they don't even have to have kids, just having sex in the first place. My little cousin had sex for the first time when she was 14... 14... I about killed her... I didn't kiss a boy until I was 15... Im marrying the only person I have ever slept with... I think kids (granted not all kids, but most) today are growing up too fast and need to slow down and just be kids... You are an adult for 90% of your life.... just slow down and enjoy the simple things....
         

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