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    05-13-2012, 12:48 AM
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Sometimes when we ride in the arena by ourselves he gets balky and refuses to go forward again after stopping, he'll start backing up; or when we're trotting he tries to go really fast and isn't focused. This doesn't happen every time, but I really noticed it today...while we were riding he really wanted to get back to his buddies.
     
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    05-13-2012, 03:38 AM
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Yo get a horse to respect you, it has to have trust in you.
The only way the horse gains trust is for you to take the leadership role. This means correcting every movement you do not want.
You want to be leader by being 'nice' which is your way of thinking but not the horses.
When a horse is corrected for unwanted behaviour and this has to start with tight boundaries, it will trust you faster than any chasing it in circles or massage.
Correction does not mean beating it up it means making it do the smallest thing you asked for.
If I have a horse that is wanting to get back to the other horses and is restless, calling out, looking in the herd direction generally not taking any notice of me, I will gain its attention with a couple of jerks on the halter, making sure it realises that I am there and demanding its attention. Correction like this must be consistent and authoritative. They will respect you more for it providing it is firm and fair.
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    05-13-2012, 11:07 AM
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We have a new foal we've been turning out with the three geldings, and Ace has gotten really attached to him. If the foal's in the pasture and I take Ace into the barn by himself, he freaks. But when we take the foal and dam in to their barn for the night and then I take Ace into the barn by himself he's fine.

Sometimes Ace seems like he really enjoys being with me, and he's happy to just do whatever. But sometimes ALL he can think about is being with the others. And I can't really say when this happens, as it's kinda inconsistent...so I would just like him to trust and respect me more all around.
     
    05-13-2012, 11:28 PM
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One thing I never do with a herd bound horse is let him pull me around or 'force him' to walk, or whatever.

If he wants to dance and jig about while on the line, because he is herdbound, fine, I will gladly oblige; I have all sorts of groundwork exercises up my sleeve that I teach my horses, or that I train to project horses, so it's not like I can't work that tail off, and get that focus back on me, and I always work them a little beyond the time they put their focus back on me...

If you are undersaddle...same thing; especially if he is pulling on you; one thing I absolutely HATE seeing is people forcing a herd bound horse to walk, or allowing him to move faster when he is going toward the arena gate, or toward home. Now, granted, if where they want to be, is at the arena gate, I DO work their tail off there, and rest them AWAY from the gate. But I don't allow them to pull me around. I make sure they know how to laterally flex, especially, before I get on (if it's a project horse), so I know I can get them around into a circle, since I focus on circle, serpentine, figure 8, type work, when working their butts off when undersaddle. I also make sure they know an effective one rein stop.

An important peice of 'natural horsemanship' is making the wrong thing hard, and the right thing easy; and it will be different for each horse some times. For some horses, the one exercise may be learned in a couple of 10 minute exercises, and the same exercise may take a different horse several longer more exerting exercises.
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    05-14-2012, 11:36 AM
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Green Broke
Yep yep^^^
I have been working through these issues. All of your advice is great! Thank you!
     
    05-15-2012, 10:17 PM
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His problem now...when the foals' in the pasture and I try to take Ace away, he freaks. But as soon as we put the foal up for the night and I take Ace away, he's totally fine. ???
     
    05-18-2012, 08:08 PM
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How can he become less attached to Dusty? Why is he so attached?
     

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