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    06-28-2009, 06:51 AM
  #1
Green Broke
Horse Training HELL

Anyone ever had one of those days were everything that could go wrong does? That was what yesterday was for me. This is kind of a 'share your stories' thing and sorta a 'for the love of God help me' plea.

It all starts on an perfect day; no wind, not too hot, not too humid. I groom my horse, tack her up, and bring her into the round pen for a bit of practice. That's when it begins.

She goes CRAZY. First, she doesn't want me to lounge her (that how we warm up.) She turns left when I want her go right and right when I want her to go left. Ok, that's not too terrible, but it gets worse.

She finally, does it right, so I go up and pet her. Than she SNAPS at me. I check all her tack to make sure it isn't hurting her, but nothing is wrong. Nothing wrong with her legs or back either.

Well, I like to end training on a good note. Plus, I haven't ridden or worked with her in about a week and I don't want the start of the 'pasture belly.' I'm pretty short and she's tall, so I led her up to the mounting block. No issue. I place by foot the stirrup and right as I'm half way on she BOLTS. I mean as fast as she can. I jump off with a tuck and roll. (Good thing I was wearing my helmet!)

I try again. Same thing happens, except for know she's bucking and kicking at me! Go and ask the barn owner and incredible horse person to help me, but Lola won't even let her on. The days end with a hot, sweaty horse, hotter, sweatier people, and the worse day of horse training I've ever had. I mean, I've had greenies that were better than she was that day! Oh, and after the fourth fall, I think my arm might be broken. I'm going to get it checked out tomorrow. As we speak, I'm typing with one hand.
     
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    06-28-2009, 06:56 AM
  #2
Weanling
I know you just meant this post as a vent and I truly sympathize. But why on earth would you try to mount a horse that you couldnt even get control of on the lunge line/ground. Just doesnt make sense to me?? Im really not trying to be sarcastic but as you found out bones break pretty easy. If it had been my horse we would have kept working on the ground until we could end on a good note then tried again tomorrow :)


Kay
     
    06-28-2009, 07:02 AM
  #3
Green Broke
I knew that it was a bad idea, but I'm just stupid and subborn that way. I realize now that I shouldn't have done that. It takes an injury for me to learn sometimes.
     
    06-28-2009, 07:10 AM
  #4
Started
I've had some random "Goofy horse" days, but nothing like yours. I see under your avvy that you're in GA, and I know it's been pretty darn hot down there recently. My guys' spazzy, zero attention span days almost always coincide with a day cooler and more comfortable than it has been, as you described in your post, Brighteyes. I have to say, though, I too would have just chalked it up do a day of groundwork.

I hope your arm's OK, good luck with that. I can almost gurantee that your horse will be nickering sweetly and searching for treats next time you see her.
     
    06-28-2009, 07:12 AM
  #5
Weanling
I really do feel for you :) Just remember never get into a fight of wills with a horse especially when it comes to strength because the horse will always win and then you will have more problems later. Patientce is key when training horses. Always set your horse up to succeed not fail.

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She finally, does it right, so I go up and pet her. Than she SNAPS at me. I check all her tack to make sure it isn't hurting her, but nothing is wrong. Nothing wrong with her legs or back either.
If this had been my horse as soon as this happened we would have gone right back to lunging again and I mean immediately.

The bad thing here is if you tried to ride her and never did then you have put in her head that if she misbehaves no one rides her and she gets her way. Never start what you can't totally finish. For me I would not even try to mount her again until all is good on the ground

Tomorrow will be a better day
     
    06-28-2009, 07:17 AM
  #6
Green Broke
Thanks for the advice

I'm probably going to be doing groundwork for quite awhile after this little incident. Strangely, but worst horse-y nightmare has always been having my foot stuck in a stirrup, so I'm not getting back on until I know that she'll behave.
     
    06-28-2009, 09:45 AM
  #7
Started
Remember horses are huge animals, if it was too hot and too humid for you, it could be worse for him!

I know where your coming from, I've raised a horse since birth, I have those days all the time.
     
    06-29-2009, 07:26 AM
  #8
Foal
Funny that, mine was today , and my horse was running away from me threatened to kick me and trampled, yes TRAMPLED me!!
This is not in her nature at all :(
     
    06-29-2009, 11:49 AM
  #9
Weanling
Ugh, I'm sorry, I have totally had those days. You know those ponies that are so perfect and you get on them to have some fun and not worry? Last time I rode one of those, he reared at the mounting block. I jumped off to check everything. He was fine. Tried getting on again. He laid down. Tried to lunge him and again he laid down. Got the vet. She laughed at me then said he was fine. A 4 year old rode him the next day and he was perfect.

I'm also trying to train a 5 year old Haflinger who only has done trails. He's a great little pony but FAT and doesn't understand how to stay on the rail. I got on him the other day and he watched another horse poop in the corner. He wanted to smell it so I let him for a few seconds. We spent the next half hour trying to WALK past it without stopping at it or stopping ahead and backing up to it. Then we spent another half hour trotting by it. He's a therapy horse. He's an idiot but he's great with kids, especially the ones who can't move parts of their body- for some reason he responds to them the best.

Just keep on truckin.
     
    06-29-2009, 12:43 PM
  #10
Foal
So sorry about your arm! Keep us posted... hope it's not broken.

And ugh, I know EXACTLY how you feel. It's been touch and go with my younger mare Tally ever since we moved to this new ranch... I'm ashamed to say it's been a year now and we're still working on the basics. Seems like every time I work with her it's two steps back lately.

Anyway, to get on to my specific story; last time I worked with her was a week ago Saturday. My sister got married the day before and I was super busy with family from out of town and wedding stuff, but I'd promised my nieces (who live in Michigan, and who I haven't seen in two years) that they could come meet my horses. So I went out early to get Gypsy ready for them as Tally was completely out of the question, but I wanted them to ride. Well, I get there and Gypsy is completely lame again because the weather's been changing so much lately.

On the off chance she'll cooperate long enough for a couple pony rides I pull Tally out and turn her out. I think she's actually in a good mood because she doesn't run off when I turn her out, instead she just walks around looking for something to eat. So I saddle her up-- and mind you my sister and nieces are watching all of this-- and try to get on her myself, to really assess her mood.

Well, apparently the mounting issue has not been fixed. She starts doing tiny little circles around me. Feeling the pressure, and somewhat frustrated with her at this point I push her to the end of the lead rope and try to lunge her at a walk and trot off it.

She flattens her ears when I ask her for the trot, turns her rear end in and KICKS at me. I could not believe it. Well, that's it then... no small children for her. I take the saddle back off because I'm in a small arena and don't have enough control to lunge with the tack on, and get after her.

Now mind you, I really don't like lunging my horses. It's part of my own training theories, which thus far have worked pretty good for me. I know I'm going to get berated for this, but I haven't lunged Tally since I've had her. I have good reason for this though-- I wanted to show her that I was different from the other people that have worked with her, all of whom worked her exclusively in the round pen, where she had had a bad experience before, which led to other, worse experiences, and got fed up with her and quit pretty quickly. I don't believe lunging is the only way to get respect from your horses. I've had her for two years now, and until I left my old ranch she was doing pretty darn good. I am in it for the long haul with this horse, and I didn't want her to think I was like everybody else. But alas, I had to lose it in front of family I never get to see and have them watch me do the one thing I don't like doing for 20 minutes before she finally submitted to me.

And I totally know what someone else said (sorry I don't remember who at the moment)... the next time I went to go see her a few days later she was all "MOM!!!" and super cuddly. *sigh* If I didn't love that horse so much... I probably would have given up on her by now, too...

Well, that's not true. One of the reasons that her and I have gotten along so well in the past is because I'm stubborn, too.
     

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