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        07-30-2012, 02:15 AM
    Kiwi you can use a good ol over and under on their neck as a substitute for a crop.. just be aware that they may spring forward so be careful not to catch them in the mouth.
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        07-30-2012, 08:32 AM
    Green Broke
    Horses want a leader. They want one that they can look to for guidance, and one that makes them feel safe. Your horse doesn't see that in you and because of that, he goes to the other horse for it.

    You say you can't ride because of conditions. Then it's the perfect time to work with him to build his confidence in you as a leader. Help him with obstacles and challenging things for him. Guide him and show him that he'll be safe with you.

    You say he has abuse issues. So do you think he IS an abused horse or was an abused horse? What I mean is do you want to keep him as an abused horse or become a normal horse? Treat him like a normal horse and that's what he will be. You say he's terrified of crops. That is a perfect thing to work with him on to show him you are a leader. Show him he doesn't need to be afraid of it. You know it's not going to hurt him. If you keep up with the "I can't do or use that because he was abused" excuse, he will always be an abused horse.
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        07-30-2012, 11:15 PM
    Thats a good point usandpets. Well all that I know for sure is that the girl I brought him from saw the previous owner whacking him around the head with a file when he shifted his weight while having having his feet done.
    I think we have a lot more trust in each other now, when I first got him he wouldnt let me anywhere near him if I was holding a shovel but now I can go up and pat him while mucking out. But if my partner or someone he doesnt know that well goes through the paddock holding anything stick-like he takes off.
    I definitely would like to help him with his confidence and I'm sure mine would benefit from it too, I guess I need to change my thinking from that even though he is an older boy I shouldnt assume that I can't work on old ingrained habits.
        07-30-2012, 11:16 PM
    Also Sky, what does an over and under mean, is that using the reins on the neck? I've never heard of it before.
        07-31-2012, 03:34 AM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by kiwi79    
    Also Sky, what does an over and under mean, is that using the reins on the neck? I've never heard of it before.
    It means to smack the horse with the end of your reins on alternating sides. You smack them on one side. Then bring your reins over the horse and smack on the other side. Bring the reins back over and smack the first side again. You keep doing that until they move. I don't smack them on the neck. I use long reins and do it just behind my legs. Usually I end up hitting the saddle or my legs and hardly even touch the horse. The sound and movement is usually enough to get them to move. If they don't, I reach a little more so it does hit them.
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        07-31-2012, 05:42 AM
    Ah ok, gotcha hadnt heard that term before.
        07-31-2012, 06:15 AM
    Green Broke
    I've always said it as up and over. Not over and under.
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        08-01-2012, 01:34 AM
    Will need to invest in some longer reins I think as Blue has a long neck and I am not left with much! I like the idea of split reins although being rather unco-ordinated at the best of times I will probably end up dropping one at some stage
        08-01-2012, 04:17 AM
    Green Broke
    Just tie them together in a knot a few inches behind your hands.
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