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        03-05-2014, 08:09 PM
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    Foal
    Horse turns away when I try to Pick Hooves

    Charlie has been doing this thing where when I go to pick out his hooves, he will back up and away. Should I just make sure someone is holding his lead while I pick his feet from now on instead of trying to pick his hooves out while I hold the lead at the same time? I know this is probably a stupid question but I want to get Charlie to the point I can pick his hooves out while he patiently stands there without assistance.
         
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        03-05-2014, 08:11 PM
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    Trained
    How does he do if he is tied?
         
        03-05-2014, 08:27 PM
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    Foal
    If I tie him to something, he will just move his body around or strike out with his hooves (not at me, just so his feet aren't in my control) does that make sense?
         
        03-05-2014, 09:01 PM
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    Super Moderator
    Was he ok with it before? What has changed? It sounds as if he doesn't want you to handle his feet at all. Is this all four, or any one in particular? Is it possible that one of his feet is huring him, so that making him stand with most of his weight on that is something that feels so bad he wants to avoid it?
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        03-05-2014, 09:01 PM
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    Green Broke
    To remind Charlie that you are in charge, I'd keep his lead rope loosely draped around his neck while you pick his hooves - If he starts to back up, immediately stand up, hold the lead close to the halter and say a firm, "No!" Not a yell, but just your voice being firm enough that it will catch his attention and make him re-think disrespecting you. Disrespect is what he's showing you, and he's 'testing the waters' to see how much you'll let him get away with. Don't be afraid to give the lead a quick (but not hard) 'jerk' as you say "No!" and then resume doing the hoof right away casually. You'll be amazed at the respect you'll receive if you're not afraid to demand it. Remember this : if you give in, even once, or reward any disrespect, your horse will remember it x's 10 and challenge you further! Firm/wise = respect :)
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        03-05-2014, 09:07 PM
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    Trained
    Make sure you are not pulling the leg out to the side towards you. For some horses, doing this because I think it really hurts them, will hurl back to relieve the pain. This might be a horse sensitive to that, try to keep that leg right under him.
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        03-06-2014, 03:59 PM
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    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Northernstar    
    To remind Charlie that you are in charge, I'd keep his lead rope loosely draped around his neck while you pick his hooves - If he starts to back up, immediately stand up, hold the lead close to the halter and say a firm, "No!" Not a yell, but just your voice being firm enough that it will catch his attention and make him re-think disrespecting you. Disrespect is what he's showing you, and he's 'testing the waters' to see how much you'll let him get away with. Don't be afraid to give the lead a quick (but not hard) 'jerk' as you say "No!" and then resume doing the hoof right away casually. You'll be amazed at the respect you'll receive if you're not afraid to demand it. Remember this : if you give in, even once, or reward any disrespect, your horse will remember it x's 10 and challenge you further! Firm/wise = respect :)
    Thank you! Yeah I feel like I had his respect this summer and he would let me pick out all his hooves but then I got my job and ahvent had alot of time to keep up the respect! He sometimes kind of walks into me...so I am now seeing that as disrespect!
         
        03-06-2014, 04:01 PM
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    Foal
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    was he ok with it before? What has changed? It sounds as if he doesn't want you to handle his feet at all. Is this all four, or any one in particular? Is it possible that one of his feet is huring him, so that making him stand with most of his weight on that is something that feels so bad he wants to avoid it?
    He is being weird and if I am facing him and go to the left he will back up like he doesnt want me back there, but If I go to the right.. that the hoof he doesnt like to have picked up. So maybe he has pain with the left hoof and doesn't want weight on it? I can easily clean out his back ones. I am havign a farrier come take a look!
         
        03-07-2014, 07:14 PM
      #9
    Weanling
    The way I handle horses that are feet-shy, is that I start like Clinton Anderson teaches, and desensitize them to things around their feet and legs with a training staff with a string. Then I advance to a short rope, like a piece of used-up lariat, and rope their feet and let it slide up and down their legs until they stand still and don't fidget. Once I can do that with all fours and they don't pay it any mind, then I'll start picking up the feet and dropping them. Once I can pick up their feet without argument, I will clean and inspect the hooves EVERY time I halter them up and before and after every ride. It becomes pretty routine for them.

    If I get one that knows better that starts being a problem while I'm trimming and have to hold the hoof for a longer period, I'll give them a slap on the rump or side with the rasp. Not too hard, just enough to sting. They understand when they've been punished for being ornery.
         
        03-07-2014, 10:02 PM
      #10
    Showing
    Keep a riding crop at your feet and your lead over your shoulder. But first move him out into the open with lots of room. As soon as he starts moving, grab the crop and start backing him up, hard and fast. Slap his chest with the crop. Make him run backwards altho you'll have to run to keep up. Let him stop but no sooner than a good 30'. Don't pet him or talk to him but walk him back to where you were and start picking again. After the 3rd time you've backed him he'll have made the connection and will be quite content to let you pick.
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