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        02-27-2013, 10:44 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Replay the video at 0:02 and 0:05 the horse lunges forward with his teeth towards the handler.

    There is a huge difference between a horse throwing its legs out to catch its balance and a horse that is striking out. Most of the time he is doing some type of keeping his balance, but at 1:04 the horse comes straight at the handler and strikes out with both hooves.

    The horse was probably taught through confronting the horse enough to get him into an aggressive rear then provoking him to stay in it.
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        02-27-2013, 10:46 PM
      #12
    Trained
    There were definite strikes in there. Particularly towards the end as the horse and handler were walking out of the ring, and a number of times when the handler become cornered.
         
        02-27-2013, 10:46 PM
      #13
    Showing
    Okay, that horse struck out at her at :04, :17 when he backed her up against the rail, 1:03 was a huge strike with both fronts, and at the very end just as they are going down the alley, he strikes at her multiple times right in a row.

    In addition to that, there were multiple points in there where I could see he was wanting to strike, but his balance would have been compromised so he didn't.

    Frankly, I don't think he's really "walking" either. It's more like a 2 legged charge. If the horse were well trained to do the actual trick of walking on his hind legs, then the handler would be able to stop his forward motion whenever she wanted. That lady couldn't. She was basically just trying to stay out of his way. If she had stopped backing off at any point in that show, there is little doubt in my mind the horse would have run her over and then proceeded to throttle her with hooves and teeth.
         
        02-27-2013, 10:56 PM
      #14
    Started
    This reminds me a great deal of the Spanish Dancing horses (the one's crosstied and whipped into 'dancing', not the well bred and cared for gaited horses). I'm not saying it's the same, but I believe this horse was trained with some very similar methods... Not good at all.

    One of our rescue horses was a Spanish Dancing horse and she clearly suffers from some serious PTSD. She goes 'blank' where her eyes go empty and her whole body goes quiet and she kind of trembles softly, then all of a sudden she'll go wild-eyed and lunge out and bite the wall, trotting in place and kicking out with her hinds, like little pops off the ground. At the sight of a whip she starts jogging in place, she couldn't be lead or sat on without trotting, at whatever speed you expected, but always trotting. It was like she didn't even know she could walk on lead or undersaddle. She's getting better now, but I truly fear for horses like her. I don't think they could ever really function well in life outside of circus/parade acts like this - and the life they're living IMO is as terrible as it gets.
         
        02-27-2013, 10:56 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Gosh that looks dangerous!

    I would imagine, the way she is waving the whip around, that the horse was taught to stay up by smacking his legs. Either that or she is waving the whip around to try to keep the horse off her.

    Either way

    I thought she was going backwards over the ring at one point.
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        02-27-2013, 11:51 PM
      #16
    Started
    What a dangerous and unnecessary thing to teach a horse.
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        02-28-2013, 12:14 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    I'm not sure if I'm the only one seeing it, but it looks like the horse comes out of the bow free will to lunge at the person. He/she has no control over that horse and it can only end very badly for both the handler and horse. Such a shame.
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        02-28-2013, 12:22 AM
      #18
    Trained
    Looks like the Russian circus and a man trainer. Pretty much reminds me of lions at a circus, given a chance, the animal would love to kill the handler.
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        02-28-2013, 12:23 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    Sorry if this comment sounds incredibly stupid, but...

    Is that horse wearing a shock collar?!

    That might explain why the trainer lived throughout this ridiculous show...
         
        02-28-2013, 12:40 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    I hate to see things like that! I refuse to visit a circus and would never go to see something like that! Poor horse!
         

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