its "not a goos start" but what am I supposed to do about it? I don't even care about backin up under saddle, but on the ground, he doenst move. I need himt o move out the way, backwards, and he just doesnt move. No amound of pressure does anything. When im oushing him back or im not, there is no reaction, or difference. I can easily push him over sideways when tied up and stuff. Im not new to horses, and he isnt my first but I reallky don't even have an understanding of what forhand =, haunches and how to teach/ ask leg yield. He is very very green. I lunge him often, spend a lot of time with him, do basic join-up and follow-up and all that jazz. I have had him since september. I kinda just asked for how to actually fix the problem... :/
I know you're frustrated and I hope I didn't come off as witchy. Try to get energized inside when you want the horse to change how they are. Grow taller.. make noise, seem bigger. It'll help your case a lot.
And it's okay to not understand all of those terms.. as long as you understand the idea (the reason you do this.. what it does, etc.) behind them. But that's something else entirely :)
The way I taught my horse to back up is stand by his shoulder.. take your leadrope in your outer hand (the one away from his face) and spin it infront of his face (always swinging it down never up to his chin) until the rope hits his nose (it doesn't hurt it's just a bit different to them) and when he takes a step back, then stop spinning. Pretty soon they'll start moving back moreso with the notion of a gentle swining rope or just the voice cue or just watching your body.
If he DOESN'T move at all (it'll take awhile..) increase the pressure... spin that lead-rope really fast and bring it closer to his face until he changes.. then as soon as he does.. stop the spinning and relax.
I hope that helps! Just don't stand infront of him.. to the side of his shoulder.
Thats what I do...
Every time he moves the slightest bit back the pressure comes of and I tell him he is good. Sometimes he will walk back a few steps and its all ggood, but other times he will not move no matter how hard I try,
Then make him more forward.. lunge that sucker until he gets the idea that when you tell him something, he better respond. Or try asking him to yield by putting pressure on his side where your leg would go. It helps to have a whip in the other hand incase he tries to move into the pressure instead of away.
Then try backing him up and as soon as he shifts weight, ease up on the pressure but don't stop it.. when he takes a step back, ease up even more but keep the pressure on until you are happy with the steps he took back.
But please.. if you aren't confident or if he is too much to deal with, ask someone experienced to give you a hand. Some horses you can't tell what they're going to react to or how they will react so you have to be ready.
Also.. do you use a rope halter?
The horse can feel the pressure better than just a regular nylon/web/leather.