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post #11 of 17 Old 04-04-2014, 06:52 AM
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No, they are asking how you will afford a vet because you said you can't afford a saddle.

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post #12 of 17 Old 04-04-2014, 07:42 AM
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Being in South Africa has nothing to do with it. In fact, someday I hope to visit South Africa.. I have seen photos of your farms and ranches.. they are really a sight to behold.

Here in the US a new Saddle can easily push $800 and that is a pretty sum. If a horse colics it can easily cost that.. and a lot more (if surgery is necessary). That is all I was implying and, really, it was meant for you to consider. Maybe vet services where you live are much less and/or saddles are much more.

Now.. back to the horse and training.
Was this horse ridden and trained to ride before you got him? If not, then here we have what appears to be an unknowledgeable owner/rider coupled with an untrained horse. A common saying is "green horse and a green rider = black and blue!"

To be safe... and that is very important.. you really need some riding lessons.. from someone who has been taught to ride (not someone who has "been riding their whole life"). This will help you understand the aids and how to communicate what you want to a horse that is trained. Meanwhile, your horse needs to visit with a trainer who has a proven record of success (not someone who had 'ridden their whole lives and trained a few horses' but never had any formal training (or competition experience) from someone knowledgeable). That would be your best bet for a safe future for you and this horse.

When an untrained horse is first ridden they can react a number of ways. One is to explode. Another is to run away. Some actually stand still and then walk off. Some, like this horse, just do not move at all. Usually good ground work and preparation can mitigate a lot of the xplosions and running away and standing still (but not always) and turn it into standing still and walking off.

The horse that refuses to move the first time he is mounted is usually discombobulated by the feel of weight on their back and how it changes their balance. Such a horse, when they move, can suddenly explode because it is all very hard for the horse to process.

When I trained a horse and got one of these afraid to move horses, I would usually use a leading rein and get the horse to take a step to the right or left in a circle. I had a bosal on most of the horses I started so the pressure was a little different than either a bridle with a bit or a halter. The circle and turning did two things for me.. got the horse to move and also helped to mitigate an explosion or running away!

I still suggest you take the money you are saving for a saddle and spend it on riding lessons (so you can learn how to handle and communicate to the horse what is wanted) and send this horse out to a trainer. When the horse is ready to be ridden, I then suggest you take lessons on your horse.. since each is unique and even 120 days at a trainer does not mean the horse is "trained."

That is what I suggest. Good luck!

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post #13 of 17 Old 04-04-2014, 10:09 AM
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Have someone help you. You move your seat bones and squeeze, have your helper lead him a step forward. Wash, rinse repeat until he understands that your seat means to move forward.
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post #14 of 17 Old 04-04-2014, 12:00 PM
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By a leading rein.. I do not mean someone leading the horse... I mean that I separated my hands and pulled the rein way out to the side while sitting on the horse's back. That is what I call a "leading rein."

I was not sure if that was at all clear. :)

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post #15 of 17 Old 04-04-2014, 12:19 PM
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I actually just went through something very similar with a mare I just bought. She was broke out as a three year old but had been sitting since and used as a brood mare until I bought her at the age of 12.

What I did was make sure her lunging was solid to the point where when I cluck or give the command to move out it means MOVE YOUR FEET ASAP! Then I added a rider, in my case my sister who had ridden lots of spoiled horses with me plus I am too far along in my pregnancy to ride myself. Once mounted my sister would give the command for her to walk off, a squeeze and a cluck, when she got no response I would give the command from the ground and the mare would walk right off. Only took about a half hour session of doing this in both directions at a walk and trot for the mare to start moving out reliably when asked by the rider. The next day I lunged her as usual (trying to build her up after her looong break) and then had my sister hop on (no lunge line this time) and the mare reliably moved off when my sister asked her to.

I am by no means a trainer, have brought along a few babies and refreshed many spoiled and out of work horses but this is what has worked for me.

Good luck with your horse OP
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post #16 of 17 Old 04-04-2014, 12:28 PM
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Also I never saw where the OP stated they couldn't afford a new saddle, only that they didn't have one yet. Let's not jump to conclusions and scare away a new member, asking for advice can be intimidating as it is.

I myself have been riding (pre pregnancy) in my old crappy beat up synthetic. I need a new trail saddle badly but haven't got one yet. Not because I can't afford it but because nothing I like that fits had come my way as of yet. I still have a large emergency vet fund and afford my horses just fine.
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post #17 of 17 Old 04-05-2014, 09:26 AM Thread Starter
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If you guys read my first post you will note I said that my horse is used to being ridden daily....I had some classes yes and I am still a beginner but I know how to ride I just wanted some advice not slander. I never said I can't afford a saddle go read my first post again, and I don't know why you are talking about vet fees and not about the question I asked. Yes I can afford a vet (he was here last week) and yes I can afford a saddle. Me and my horse is doing better i got him to go forward today and he didn't bolt and I'm still alive so thank you all for the wonderfull input I will seek advice somewhere else.
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