Horses with Hard Mouths - Bitting Up.
I want to get this out of the way like a DISCLAIMER. I do not advocate using stronger bits, nor do i advocate covering up or brushing aside horses with breaking problems, this horse will stop as soon as you say "woah" but when the rein aid is introduced, it's like he says "Eff you and eff that too" and continues on his merry way he has been broken for over 6 months now.
I have one horse and one horse only with a steel mouth, i know the beaks are in the brain, train him on a snaffle, use only a snaffle etc. But i feel now i am getting no where, my shoulder is hurting more and more after i ride him, and i have tried to sell him and cannot do it, he was returned to me because of this, i want to either fix it or work with it.
As a back ground, he was trained in harness as a pacer, he never raced but trialled.
If i Ask him to slow down he will rush through the aid/ignore it, continue at his speed/go faster. On a loose rein he wil just pick up and pick up and pick up speed ti he is near bolting and only the one rein stop helps there, i would nto like to let him do that.
he hardly turns, if i use the bit it's an argument/locks through the neck, stiffens the poll, crosses the jaw/opens his mouth, falls out through the should swing out the hind end or slams on the breaks.
Getting him up in speed is ridiculous to say the least, from walk to trot, he's okay, going back down he leans and sits on the hand, i throw my reisn away and he'll pick his speed back up.
The excercises i do are;
When he starts to lean, downwards or upwards transition, good old kick in the ribs and a nice tug upwards if he is leaning/yanking, not straight back or outwards.
Trot poles, in trot, lots of up and down transitions, trying to avoid canter, trying to let him be on a loose rein, he just fiddles though tosses his head around ect.
Bits i have tried ; single link fullcheek/loose ring snaffle/egg butt snaffle/d ring, sweet iron and copper roller loose ring snaffle, french link copper baucher.
In the baucher, i could not get him to stop, he knows woah verbally, he knows woah off the seat.
In the singles, he slows down and shovels his head forward opens his mouth and then yanks down.
In the loose ring french link, he would open his mouth and it would just slid merilly around , with a lip strap he would shovel his head between his knees.
Know, i wont say he hasn't improved, but i have a dislocating shoulder, and i cannot always fight with him, if i can fight with him half the time. And was wondering, if there are any other bits anyone would suggest, i have no option of trying different bits ill have to commit to a buy.
I do not want any sweet iron suggestions. And i have a riding instructor who has given me advice, but owuld liek a wider range of opinions.
I have considered a pelham but don't know if it will have any affect, or if it will be the right affect, opinions?
Advice, suggestions, experience, opinions greatly appreciated! :)
Ace, Duke, Red, , Trojan, Unnamed. *Sold* Babe, Shadow.
Last edited by Savvy Debonair; 12-29-2012 at 08:53 AM.