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        01-14-2008, 07:29 PM
      #31
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horse_luver4e
    There neither pets nor tools, there partners. :)

    That's what I was goiung to write when I read the topic title lol.
         
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        01-15-2008, 07:03 PM
      #32
    Foal
    It depends on what your using the horse for. Say if you use a Percheron for plowing, I'd say that's using a horse as a tool. But if you have a horse just for the pleasure of taking it out on trails and grooming it for the fun of it, then I'd say that's using a horse as more of a pet.
         
        01-15-2008, 07:20 PM
      #33
    Trained
    But what if the perchern used for plowing is taken in at night and groomed and cuddled and given lots of tasty treats?? Im not trying to be argumentative but that's what myself and others have meant by it depending on the person. You can have a horse that works and serves a purpose that is also your friend and pet :)

    Just my thoughts
         
        01-15-2008, 07:56 PM
      #34
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzyrider
    but what if the perchern used for plowing is taken in at night and groomed and cuddled and given lots of tasty treats?? Im not trying to be argumentative but that's what myself and others have meant by it depending on the person. You can have a horse that works and serves a purpose that is also your friend and pet :)

    Just my thoughts
    That was the point that I also made Jazzy a few pages back!! Great minds hey...... :P
         
        01-15-2008, 08:18 PM
      #35
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I Love Lane
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzyrider
    but what if the perchern used for plowing is taken in at night and groomed and cuddled and given lots of tasty treats?? Im not trying to be argumentative but that's what myself and others have meant by it depending on the person. You can have a horse that works and serves a purpose that is also your friend and pet :)

    Just my thoughts
    That was the point that I also made Jazzy a few pages back!! Great minds hey...... :P
    lol yup
         
        01-15-2008, 11:02 PM
      #36
    Yearling
    Honestly I think a horse should never be a tool, or be put to "work." Everything you do with your horse, whether its training or strutting in the show ring should be fun for both of you and it should be nothing more than playing a game. Your horse should be not only your partner but your best friend. Best friends have fun together doing anything, and even when you and your best friend are doing chores like digging holes and filling them back in, it always ends up being fun doesn't it? So even when you and your horse and your working on a new maneuver as hard as ti may be and however much "work" it is to do, it should ALWAYS be fun. You should never have to "work" with your horse. It should aways be playtime.

    (Edited for spelling mistakes)
         
        01-16-2008, 01:48 AM
      #37
    Foal
    My attention span was short, and I didn't get through all of this. Forgive if I repeat.

    My horse is a pet, a tool, a partner, a friend. I hand walk him and my dog often (when it's too cold to ride). I go out in his pasture and play with him. I go out and just pet and coddle. I get on and gallop him in the dessert. I get on and jump a course with him. He loves it.

    Keeping a horse happy means allowing him to do what he enjoys, get rewarded, and have some human companionship. I build trust in him with what I do. This allows me to gallop my OTTB around the desert sanely and trustfully.


    BUT!! You can take being a pet too far. If you end up with a spoiled horse, you will end up with a horse you can't ride or compete with. He'll be taking advantage of you.

    OR if you only use your horse as a tool, if he doesn't have the friendly human contact, or horse contact, I think you will also end up with a sour horse. One who weaves, paws, pins his ears, takes out his frustration on you...

    There is a fine line between a pet, a tool, a friend, a partner. Those who can walk that fine line, raise horses who are the happiest.
         
        01-16-2008, 07:17 PM
      #38
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Abby
    Honestly I think a horse should never be a tool, or be put to "work." Everything you do with your horse, whether its training or strutting in the show ring should be fun for both of you and it should be nothing more than playing a game. Your horse should be not only your partner but your best friend. Best friends have fun together doing anything, and even when you and your best friend are doing chores like digging holes and filling them back in, it always ends up being fun doesn't it? So even when you and your horse and your working on a new maneuver as hard as ti may be and however much "work" it is to do, it should ALWAYS be fun. You should never have to "work" with your horse. It should aways be playtime.

    (Edited for spelling mistakes)

    That's a good statement but then I think hmm how did horses get domesticated anyway? Because people started using them as a TOOL to get you from place to place or for wars and stuff... Its things like that that make me think. But then the indians on the other hand lol had horses too but according to stories were nice to their horses and supposedly their horses came back to them and they didn't keep them pinned up and stuff.. I'm not sure about that that's just the things I hear. Lol.

    Don't get me wrong though I agree with you all I think horses should not be used as a tool and that they can be loved on too but this all just came to my attention and made me think and I wanted to see if it would make you guys think too lol.
         
        01-16-2008, 09:07 PM
      #39
    Foal
    Nicely said tim.

    I consider my horse as my best friend and partner. I treat him with respect and love, and he does the same in return.
         
        01-16-2008, 10:44 PM
      #40
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jr_lover
    Thats a good statement but then I think hmm how did horses get domesticated anyway? Because people started using them as a TOOL to get you from place to place or for wars and stuff... Its things like that that make me think. But then the indians on the other hand lol had horses too but according to stories were nice to their horses and supposedly their horses came back to them and they didn't keep them pinned up and stuff.. I'm not sure about that that's just the things I hear. Lol.

    Don't get me wrong though I agree with you all I think horses should not be used as a tool and that they can be loved on too but this all just came to my attention and made me think and I wanted to see if it would make you guys think too lol.
    I'm not quite sure how horses got domesticated previously but I do know that they originally did it for food(gross!) and to be pack animals and to be used in war. Nowadays domestication in the harsher ways is much much gentler than past methods. I was watching a movie called "The Real horse Whisperer" by Monty Roberts whom learned his methods from watching wild horses "train" each other. He showed clips of his dad who used to train horses in horrible ways! They'd bind ropes all over the horses body, and tie up a rear foot to its side, then tie its head up high against a post and when the horse pulled, the ropes tightened around its body and they left the horse there until it gave in and stopped pulling. That's how they used to break a horse and domesticate wild horses. It was HORRIBLE looking.

    Using your horse for personal gain is okay as long as the horse is in on it too. I think people that sell and trade horses like baseball cards don't really feel a connection with horses as people that actually spend time with their horse and CARE for them. People will buy a horse and say "Oh well, he doesn't extend at the trot the way I want him to and so I'm going to sell him and buy a new one for showing this year." Those horses are tools, IMO.
         

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