Originally Posted by thesilverspear View Post
I agree with both of you.
I also think it takes years of experience, knowledge, and feel to tell the difference between a horse who is misbehaving because it's in pain, scared, confused, has poor or inconsistent training, etc and one who is just being a douche and testing its handler, or simply could not be bothered doing what the handler asks. Unfortunately, it seems as if quite a lot of people assume the latter when the problem is caused by any number of the former...
Why not teach kids from the get-go to be the quietly benevolent alpha?
Thanks for the thread. Totally in agreement. I've been writing about being the "benevolent herd leader."
If you fix the little problems in behavior, the big problems fix themselves.
I also want to add that for those of us who haved owned/trained/worked with horses for a long time, we should be judging any new training methods. I trust my gut when I hear ANY method that doesn't agree with the experts that I have read and tried to imitate. I compare anybody's ideas to see if they jive or if they conflict with that that I know already works. EVERY time I find there is a new (to me) way to school that works, I ALSO discover that said trainer learned from past experts. For instance, Julie Goodnight's grandfather was in the US Cavalry, and Dennis Reis studied Vaquero training methods and has based his ground training on this.
The proof is always in the pudding, as they say.
I might add that DH and I learned from the US Cavalry manuel to team up a young horse with an experienced one. I never knew how good I had it when I owned two 4yo geldings who lived with/trained with/trailered to events with older, trained horses. They learned to not be afraid of things by observing their herdmates who weren't bothered by them. It's the same as the chapter in Black Beauty
where he's sent to a cow's pasture for a month to desensitize him to trains. The cows kept grazing when the engines roared by, and they taught him to not be afraid.
So...how to discipline? I believe that Michael Poulin was right when he recently said we punish much more than we praise. Praise appropriately and wisely administered
can make our horse's job fun, and then, it's isn't work anymore. =D