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post #41 of 51 Old 01-04-2013, 03:35 PM
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thank you that what I want to hear
Do a search on Youtube for Clinton Anderson, you will find vids that might be helpful to you with doing ground work with your guy.....
Alot of horses are fine when they have a saddle on with the girth tightened until they move out, then they will sometimes buck....good luck!
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Do a search on Youtube for Clinton Anderson, you will find vids that might be helpful to you with doing ground work with your guy.....
Alot of horses are fine when they have a saddle on with the girth tightened until they move out, then they will sometimes buck....good luck!
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here's one I found, it's not Clinton Anderson but a guy following his methods.....
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here's one I found, it's not Clinton Anderson but a guy following his methods.....
Gaining Respect and Control On The Ground - Series I - YouTube

Thank you it really does help!!!
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thank you it really does help!!!
Probably when you first start doing any of the stuff your horse is going to want to move around, you move with the horse and keep throwing the rope (or whatever you are working with) with rythm until the horse stops moving and relaxes. Then take it away.......some horses will move quite a bit longer than others.
I think if you follow his methods it will make a big difference in your horse with respecting and listening to you!
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Probably when you first start doing any of the stuff your horse is going to want to move around, you move with the horse and keep throwing the rope (or whatever you are working with) with rythm until the horse stops moving and relaxes. Then take it away.......some horses will move quite a bit longer than others.
I think if you follow his methods it will make a big difference in your horse with respecting and listening to you!
yes we did that the trainer that I used to have along time ago told me to do that witha spooked horse so he already nows that but defintly will do it again, thank you
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Is your other horse quiet enough to pony the bucker? If so, maybe your dad could saddle up the bucker and pony him a few times before trying to get on him again. I don't know if it's a good idea for you to do this though, as I'm not sure how experienced you are.

Tiring him out the first few times before he's ridden is probably a good idea. Eventually he'll get more and more fit, though, so it probably won't work long-term. And I'm sure you're aware of this, but make sure you don't work him so hard he's injured or something.

There's definitely plenty of groundwork you can do. It's hard to suggest what to do for sure, though, without seeing why he bucked. Was he just full of beans, or was he maybe not real well-broke in the first place? Is he a cold-backed kind of horse that tends to hump up whenever he's first saddled?

I like to do basic round pen stuff with my horses, on a very long lead rope (since I don't actually have a round pen). I often even warm up my 16-year-old gelding before I get on. The first exercise on this blog is one I do a lot. But you absolutely need to make sure you are out of kicking range, especially if you've never done this with this horse before. Some horses will kick!

Starting Stevie: Day Ten: Flexion

And here's some stuff from Louisiana State. You'll notice about 2 minutes in the horse is licking its lips, and the guy gives the horse a break. I like to do the same thing when they've made a bit of progress and start licking their lips, as they're thinking about what they've just done (or so I've been told).

Another thing to remember is that horses learn from releasing the pressure. So apply pressure until the horse gives you a positive response, then release the pressure immediately.

And you can certainly do this while the horse is saddled, to get him used to carrying the saddle again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieydRYGleaA
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Most bad behaviors will go away on their own when you start doing ground work with a horse and continue doing it for awhile.......then be consistant on not one day letting him into your face and the next day not......that is giving mixed signals to the horse.......

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I know you don't want to hear anymore about you asking for so much trying to sell your horse. I haven't been able to reply but wanted to share this.

Plain and simple, the horse market is just crap right now. The last horse we got was for sale at the price of $2200. They only had one person respond to their ad. When the purchaser heard about the horses bucking issue, they lost interest in the horse. The owner and the trainer decided to just give the horse away but they wanted him to go to a good home. The trainer, an old friend of ours, called us to see if we'd be interested. She knew I was pretty good with horses. Here's a pic of him:

He has a very stocky build and was trained to work cows.

Even if your horse was sold to you at your asking price, you have to remember that with anything, the value depreciates with time. Especially if things change for the worse, like training issues you're having. The only way the price would go up is if you do something to increase his training or abilities from when you got him.

Like others have said, groundwork will help you establish being his leader. He needs to understand that when you say move, he cannot question it. Once you've regained his respect on the ground, getting on him should be less of a problem. If you could find someone, not necessarily a trainer but someone that knows more about horses, help you in person. They could give you advice promptly and correct you if you're doing it wrong.

I too like Clinton Anderson. He is easy to understand and follow. If you have cable or satellite tv, RFDTV has his shows on there. There are other trainers on there as well.

I would like to wish you luck with him. Hope things turn around for you and him.
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Badger,

If you came to this forum looking for easy, feel good, answers to your questions, you would be better off looking elsewhere. There are alot of really good horsepeople on here but they don't give feel good type advice that will have a better chance of you getting hurt, than bringing your horse under control. I only quickly perused this thread, but my understanding is... you have an untrained horse that you are scared of. Several people gave you ideas about what to do, and also other places to look. Unless you get the confidence to become a leader to your horse, you'de be better off looking for better ideas. It would be in the best interest of you, and the horse to find him another home. Sorry... it is what it is.
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