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    05-04-2011, 08:22 PM
  #1
Foal
Question How to break Rearing Habit?

Me and my mom just started training my horse Andie. She is 4 years old and we're trying to break her in a little more(she's a green broke and still has a lot of training to do). I've noticed that every time we lead her into the barn on the lead rope she rears in the door way where the barn leads out to the pasture.
She's done this since we've had her (about 4 months now). I know it's incredibly dangerous when she does this but I'm not sure how to train her not to do that. Usually she does it once and with a little persuasion will start walking again. We do have and older,more experianced horse with her but she still does it.

Any suggestions??
     
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    05-04-2011, 09:00 PM
  #2
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Baylee    
Me and my mom just started training my horse Andie. She is 4 years old and we're trying to break her in a little more(she's a green broke and still has a lot of training to do). I've noticed that every time we lead her into the barn on the lead rope she rears in the door way where the barn leads out to the pasture.
She's done this since we've had her (about 4 months now). I know it's incredibly dangerous when she does this but I'm not sure how to train her not to do that. Usually she does it once and with a little persuasion will start walking again. We do have and older,more experianced horse with her but she still does it.

Any suggestions??

Is it like a black stallion rear? Or just a hop? The two are very different, and it kind of depends on the situation. If the mare is pushy on the ground or shows lack of respect, there is your problem. If the mare seems frightened, then maybe she had a bad experience in the door of a particular barn. Like I said, depending on the situation, it needs to be dealt with differently.

If the horse seems scared or anxious, repetition and correction is going to most likely work best. I would not let her go until she goes through the door without rearing, or at least improves. Then when she is calm, let her go to the pasture. Do this daily and you may see improvement. Like I said, if she's scared you need to find a balance between getting her to respect you and realize that rearing is not acceptable, while at the same time reassuring her that it is going to be okay.

If the horse does not seem scared or anxious, then man I would be on that horse like stink on poo. I would make her think she is going to DIE for rearing. My mare did this when she was 2 years old and quickly learned that when she reared, she got hit with a whip HARD in the chest. Thus rearing became a no-no to her.

See what I mean about the context? Depending on the situation, you will get different results. Depending on the background and what the horses demeanor is when she rears really will tell you why she is rearing and thus you can fix it.
     
    05-05-2011, 12:48 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Lakotababii    
Is it like a black stallion rear? Or just a hop? The two are very different, and it kind of depends on the situation. If the mare is pushy on the ground or shows lack of respect, there is your problem. If the mare seems frightened, then maybe she had a bad experience in the door of a particular barn. Like I said, depending on the situation, it needs to be dealt with differently.

If the horse seems scared or anxious, repetition and correction is going to most likely work best. I would not let her go until she goes through the door without rearing, or at least improves. Then when she is calm, let her go to the pasture. Do this daily and you may see improvement. Like I said, if she's scared you need to find a balance between getting her to respect you and realize that rearing is not acceptable, while at the same time reassuring her that it is going to be okay.

If the horse does not seem scared or anxious, then man I would be on that horse like stink on poo. I would make her think she is going to DIE for rearing. My mare did this when she was 2 years old and quickly learned that when she reared, she got hit with a whip HARD in the chest. Thus rearing became a no-no to her.

See what I mean about the context? Depending on the situation, you will get different results. Depending on the background and what the horses demeanor is when she rears really will tell you why she is rearing and thus you can fix it.

Totally agree. If she is doing this to be naughty/playful get after her butt. Smack her kick her make her back up then go through the doorway quietly and keep repeating until she does. They will learn very quickly that it is not fun to do this anymore and is much more enjoyable to be quiet and good. I once was leading a 10 year old to pasture and he decided to do this the moment he saw the gate and he very soon realised it wasn't such a good idea, I smacked him so hard with the ropae you could hear it make contact, needless to say he has never done it since. It is not cruel by doing this these animals are much larger and stronger than us and if they begin to realize that power then we will soon get very hurt. And if watch them in the field together they do much worse to eachother than we could do to them.

But if it is a fear matter still get after them for the behavior so they don't learn that it is ok to react this way, just don't punish as strongly, maybe instead just a couple jerks with the lead rope to get thier attention on you and make them do it again till they do it quietly.
     
    05-05-2011, 01:03 PM
  #4
Weanling
I have always been told if a horse rears get a whip or your hand and give them an almighty slap on the poll...
     
    05-05-2011, 01:28 PM
  #5
Foal
I am a fan of a war bonnet. It is self inflicted at that point. I don't know how to rig it with out a saddle on but I would figure something out. She will figure out rare = pain and quickly turn that attitude around IF it is an attitude problem. If it is a fear problem then that is not going to help. Fear is a whole diff story like the others said.
     
    05-05-2011, 01:43 PM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Sarahandlola    
I have always been told if a horse rears get a whip or your hand and give them an almighty slap on the poll...
in the saddle.... maybe. But if a horse is going up on the ground, then you are only going to encourage them to keep their head away from you by hitting them on the head. Thus you may create more problems and a head shy horse.

You can get a much better result from whacking a horse in the CHEST thus you don't have to worry about headshyness. It will have the same result "DONT DO THAT" without the risk of making the horse throw their head or hold it high in the first place to avoid your whip.
     
    05-05-2011, 01:52 PM
  #7
Started
If I hit my pony it's like WWIII has just been started. He will rear and act out even more. What helps me is working his butt off. I'll make him trot circles and if he still acts up I make him trot even more.

So, if you're leading her out of the barn and she starts to rear trot her down the aisle (if there's nobody else in it and it's safe, of course) a few times and then try it again. Keep repeating until she goes out.

If she's doing it out of fear, then put a slight amount of pressure on the halter to encourage her to move forward. As soon as you feel her giving to the pressure release it and praise her, then start again with just a little tiny bit of pressure. If she backs away from it keep applying the pressure, but don't apply more. Do this very slowly and calmly so she won't be tempted to rear. This is how I taught my rearing pony to load on a trailer.
     
    05-05-2011, 01:57 PM
  #8
Showing
Do not hit her. It's her insecurity that is kicking in. Try leading another horse out first and see if she still does that. She's young and naturally feels safer around the other horses, If you can have the lead horse each time you leave the barn for a week and see if that will ease her fears. If you feed anything besides hay feed it out in the yard rather than in the barn. This way she has a good association with leaving the barn.
     
    05-05-2011, 02:44 PM
  #9
Banned
Absolutely do not hit her at this point, especially not over the head, and don't use a war bonnet, either. Either is likely to make the problem much worse. Instead, try to get to the root of why she is rearing. Is it very bright outside and dark inside? Maybe her eyes haven't had time to adjust and she is frightened. Does she rear high? Does she try to run away and bolt off? Is she acting playful?

If it's a fear thing, reassure her, and practice with lots of repetition. Make the barn brighter or give her more time to acclimate before asking her to walk on. If she's being a butt, punish her when she rears by driving her in a circle at a trot a few times around you, like longeing on the lead rope. Repeat as needed until she'll walk calmly in.
     
    05-05-2011, 03:49 PM
  #10
Foal
Sounds to me like a defiant rear. I imagine a little kid stomping their feet saying nooo I don't wanna go. My pony used to rear every time I would take him out of his stall. Weather it was to ride, get turned out ect ect. I really didnt think much of it at first. Until I turned my back on him one time and he landed on me. Not so good.
I ended up having to learn how to use a lead shank over his nose. If he went up he got shanked. I was worried about it hurting him at first until someone told me "well he obviously is not worried about landing on you and hurting you" So for my pony it became a respect thing. He has all day long to rear outside and play, but If im leading him he has to walk like an angel. I would say with yours, start using a lead shank, and always have someone behind her with a whip to help move forward into the barn. Im not saying use it on her but as an aid to convince her to go forward. Its all about keeping her moving forward. Ok im done rambling. :) good luck
     

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