Please tell me what mares are supposed to do for a living if you do not think they are safe riding horses? In this current market, most of them should not be bred. You can buy 1 or 2 broke horses for the price of spaying one. Should they just be put to sleep or packed off to the killers? I think they make great riding horses and have other possibilities if they are ever injured. Obviously you have to have a well-mannered safe mare that can be ridden around other horses if you want to put a show record on one to make her a breeding prospect. How do you propose to do that?
You certainly do make outlandish, far-out conclusions from what people write. But it's quite a common tactic on bb's, to exaggerate out of all compass, what the person did say, in an effort to poke holes in the statement.
Only trouble is, that technique is pretty transparent.
I certainly never said anything like what you're accusing, and I didn't read where anyone else said anything even near that.
If anyone did say that, I think they would realize, with a little more experience, that it is not universally true. However, I think they'd also pick up, in their experience, two points:
1. Reproductive diseases can, yes, make mares act very difficult, even dangerous. Especially when these diseases go untreated or are aggravated by how the animal is managed.
2. To a novice, much of the behavior that occurs because of his lack of skill, seems like conniving, plotting or cleverness on the part of the horse. It isn't. It's an outgrowth of his lack of skill and technique.
As for it being your mare's 'responsibility' to make you and others 'feel safe', I think you're getting a little too wrapped up in things. Horses don't understand things like 'responsibility'.
They 'understand' habits, training, and whether or not the person handling or riding them, is doing it effectively or not.
When their training is not maintained, they act - well - like horses. That includes mares kicking at geldings, and more of that behavior occuring when they are not in season.
That is nature. Training is teaching horses to not act like herd animals act around other horses, but to do something different, something that the human wants them to do.
Responsibility, all these complicated things, they don't figure into the equation. The horse is either trained or not. Once it's trained, it either continues to do what it was trained to do, or not.
Correct methods and rewarding good behavior and correcting undesirable behavior, that's what it's about.
Once you start ascribing all sorts of 'motivations' to a horse, and start giving him all sorts of underhanded and conniving thought processes, you've stopped understanding him. And very truthfully, such thinking leads to an awful lot of rough handling, anger and temper on the part of the handler/rider/trainer. So it's a good thing to avoid.
Horse gets trained to do desirable things. Horse does desirable things. Horse is not trained, horse does not do desirable things. Rider does not keep horse behaving by correcting in a timely manner in an effective way, whatever training horse ever got, is null and void.
Last edited by slc; 02-24-2011 at 12:00 PM.