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  • What to do when a horse nudges you with disrespect
  • Why does a horse nudges you

 
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    01-02-2012, 09:28 PM
  #11
Trained
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Originally Posted by Moveurasets    
I am guilty also :( question though if I am rubbing behind his ears and he moves his head up and on my hand like o that feels good is that pushy or ok? Lol
No, that is the horse enjoying you rubbing him, that is perfectly acceptable.
     
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    01-02-2012, 09:33 PM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by Moveurasets    
I am guilty also :( question though if I am rubbing behind his ears and he moves his head up and on my hand like o that feels good is that pushy or ok? Lol
I do think that's okay. Now that tiny has brought to light the facts that horses can separate contact from pushing, I'm sure horses know the difference between moving their heads while you hold your hand or a brush there and when it's a bad thing they try to throw their weight around when you're trying to brush their face. I'm very interested now and going to test the boundaries a bit over the next few weeks to see what he really can sort out.
     
    01-02-2012, 09:36 PM
  #13
Showing
Think of it in a herd situation. If one went up to another and started rubbing on it, if uninvited, there'd be hell to pay. When your horse nudges you or gets in to your space, that is disrespect and like the other horse, you need to deal with it. By not doing so the horse will gradually take it farther as he begins to feel his power over you.
     
    01-02-2012, 09:38 PM
  #14
Foal
Yeah, I would consider it a little disrespectful, I wouldn't let my mare do that if she tried.
     
    01-02-2012, 09:40 PM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Think of it in a herd situation. If one went up to another and started rubbing on it, if uninvited, there'd be hell to pay. When your horse nudges you or gets in to your space, that is disrespect and like the other horse, you need to deal with it. By not doing so the horse will gradually take it farther as he begins to feel his power over you.
Agreed, but for arguments sake, my horse is number 3 in a 5 horse herd. He hangs out with two he's above (again smart horse). I've seen him make contact with the other horses and they stand there quietly, but I have also seen him make a much more blatant contact and drive them off. Yes he knows he is above them, but doesn't always use that power. I wonder why that is?
     
    01-02-2012, 09:51 PM
  #16
Super Moderator
Puck,

Astute observation! There is more to herd dynamics than just dominance and subordinance. There are often peer to peer relations with horses. Or horses that do have dominance over the others , and you will see them occasionally assert it, but for the most part they do not . They may allow the ohter to eat or drink right next to them. They often have several attendant that follow them happily.

I do not think a person has to look at ever movement or touch a horse makes on a person as him trying to assert dominance or testing.
The thing that cannot be allowed to go uncorrected is when you ask the horse to move his head or shoulder and he DOESNT! Or he pushes back. Then you must firmly reset his understanding of where he resides with respect to you on that ladder.
     
    01-03-2012, 03:40 AM
  #17
Yearling
The rule I've always lived by is do I feel the need to move or uncomfortable in anyway.

Ella knows she can have scratches but they must be gentle.

Watch horses out in a paddock they will rub on each other gently as well as push each other around with their heads.
     

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