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post #31 of 38 Old 07-07-2012, 07:14 PM
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Honestly , I believe your story up until the point when the trainer come out and just bam the horse is all better
A lot of people have said that.

What I'm going to put next isn't just for Calming, this is for everyone in general.

Okay I'm going to be the devil's advocate and let you know when my horse began to be cared for by RandysWifey they ran into some Sky-being-a-jerk problems. He's not a jerk but she didn't have his trust then or understand how to best correct his behaviors. But once she figured it out, he became a very good riding partner and he's much more behaved and not a hooligan.

One good session with a trainer on a horse that just needs GOOD HANDLING and BOUNDARIES, will do a world of good.

You and I both know how horses can sense a strong (not physically.. in horse sense) person versus a quiet person or one that has no clue what they're doing.

They may not be cured, but a good session with good timing that the horse understands what they're being asked to do then they can end on a good note, which is what it sounds like from her OP.

I'm not going to scrutinize on time stamps of posts and assume things.. that's too much of a headache for me personally to do.

But I just had to offer my experience. It's not just Sky, I've worked with many 'problem/pushy' horses in a short amount of time (15 exact in my lifetime, which isn't much) and they were behaving much better after just one session. They weren't completely fixed but it sure did end on a good note.

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post #32 of 38 Old 07-07-2012, 07:18 PM
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UpandAbove, I'm sorry that you feel the need to defend yourself, and feel like you're being picked on. Its very hard to come onto a forum as a young person, and not get the advice you'd like to get. Unfortunately we all have to be reminded from time to time that a horse's respect is the single, most important safety tool we can have when working with these animals that we get so emotionally attached to. I've been working with horses for 28 years, and still have those times when someone reminds me that I'm not doing the best I can for my horse. In my case, its not because I don't know better, more because I, too, really want my horse to love me. I think that makes it even harder to swallow the good advice that other horse-people give to me in an effort to help. Its hard at the time to remember that they're not picking on me, or judging me, but really trying to help me to achieve the goal that I've lost sight of. Try to stay open to the good advice you're being given. There's no reason to feel bad, there's no reason to be defensive or to lie about anything. In the end, it is your safety, and your relationship with your horse that matters...
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post #33 of 38 Old 07-07-2012, 07:44 PM
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how do you know I only have 1 Quarterhorse??
We have a farm with 4 horses, 1 died, 1 Quarterhorse is my brother's, one is my mum's, my dad has a thoroughbred, and I have an arabian. We have a herd of goats, flock of sheep, flock of show pigions, rabbits, barn kitties, 2 cows, 3 milk goats, and 1 bull. We have a hobby farm. And how do you know I have only 1 quarterhorse?? I am talking for everyone on this forum. So I have more than 1 horse and more than 1 quarterhorse
No offense meant, honestly. Here's a perspective: when you come onto a forum like this and post something that catches people's eye like your dangerous horse thread did, there are a lot of people who take it seriously enough to take the time to reply because they honestly want to help.

If it then seems like you do not get the general 'gist' of what is said (it honestly is neither here no there whether the horse 'loves' you), appear to ignore it (start multiple other threads about essentially the same thing), or some things in your story seem odd or inconsistent (trainers showing up, fixing the horse, and you being able to report about in a time span of 20 minutes), people might start to get the feeling that they are being 'had'. In other words, they don't feel like you're taking them seriously and you might be making the whole thing up. As a result, they will be less likely to continue to offer ideas and thoughts.

I realize you're very young and might not have realized that this is how your story comes across to some people. My tip of the day is: if you ask for help with a problem on a horse forum, be prepared to get a lot of responses. Also be prepared to hear a lot of stuff that you don't want to hear. Be prepared for people asking questions about things that don't seem to add up. We've never been to your farm so have no idea what's going on over there, aside from the things you tell us. And in the end, pretty much everyone wants to help if they believe you're willing to accept help and are honest.
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post #34 of 38 Old 07-07-2012, 08:12 PM
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At least he's going to have a clean halter to go with that experience: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-grooming/how-clean-halter-129943/

Sorry. Bad taste on my part.

Seriously though, I was going to take the time to post an honest response to the original problem (the Dangerous Horse) because it really sounded (well...) dangerous. A little over it now. Guess I'll just leave it at that the advice given by others is spot on, assuming that the horse exists.

Ya know? That really IS in bad taste. That's where you use the edit feature and take out that thoughtless little zinger. The horse died suddenly. Think how you'd feel.
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post #35 of 38 Old 07-07-2012, 09:08 PM
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ya know? That really IS in bad taste. That's where you use the edit feature and take out that thoughtless little zinger. The horse died suddenly. Think how you'd feel.
I wasn't aware the OP was a child when I posted this.

Can't edit it anymore, since you are a moderator maybe you can remove it?
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post #36 of 38 Old 07-07-2012, 10:48 PM
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I agree with the person who said that lessons are extremely beneficial. Every learning horseperson will CERTAINLY PROSPER from the utilization and learning environment offered by a reputable trainer. You should not want to punish your horse, also. Discipline and punish are two different things. Some ways I discipline my horse... I have her move in straight lines, I have her listen to me to the best of my ability. I train her to bend even though it is something she is not used to. Discipline should not have a negative connotation because discipline is something important and a quite positive factor. I hope that makes sense the way that I explained it. Remember that, as Parelli says, you should have an EQUAL partnership with your horse. You can be the leader, the teacher, but you should have 50/50 respect between you and your horse. Your horse should not overpower you, you should not overpower your horse, you should be a flowing connection between both of you. One other thing you could do is try Parelli online, it would probably help you a lot to bond with your horse and try to solve some of these issues you are having. Between some research online but first and foremost professional training, your problems will be solved. They were for me, and trust me... thousands of other people.

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post #37 of 38 Old 07-08-2012, 09:07 AM
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When I was eleven, I had an evil pony that dumped me on a regular basis. I took riding lessons (on another horse), and suddenly my pony stopped bucking me off. You have to know how. We aren't born knowing how to handle a horse.

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post #38 of 38 Old 07-08-2012, 09:31 AM
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It's really hard to discipline a horse if you don't have self discipline. Losing your temper, striking and yelling at your horse means you aren't ready to discipline anything. Lessons, girl: You need lessons on a horse and lessons in self management. Lots of girls get both lessons at the same place.
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