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post #1 of 8 Old 04-28-2009, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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How to do Flying Lead Changes

I Have been trying to master flyingng lead chsnges I know the Aids I just do not like doing the figure 8 my horse always run to the fence. Please Help

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post #2 of 8 Old 04-29-2009, 12:00 AM
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I thought my horse using 3 poles set out in a triangle on the floor
Cant a circle going over the poles a few times and then canter around again and swap reins as you come up to the pole, giving the aids to change canter lead...
Does that make any sense?

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Try putting a little cross rail in the middle of your figure 8 going both directions, and ask for the switch over the crossrail.

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If you don't like the changing directions then teach your horse to counter canter and then start doing simple changes from the counter canter lead to the correct lead and then eventually make the switch quicker and quicker until itbecomes flying! Asking for the switch in a corner would really help as he will want to switch to the correct lead in a corner to be more easily balanced
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First thing is first, you actually have to teach the horse flying changes. The process is a bit lengthy to explain on the internet.. But basically you first need a horse that can do simple lead changes through the walk without the rider pulling, kicking or turning the horse into a circle. Then you also need to teach the horse how to do a balanced counter canter and from there we have something to work with. If the horse is not currently performing these movements easily, then you have to take the time to train her. Be prepared to work for a few months on this. Depending on the horse we need to then develop an exercise that is going to set the horse up for success in the changes and first practice it with our simple changes through the walk. When we have it down with simple changes, we then go through the same exercise, half halt for the downward transition but instead of finishing our half halt, we aid for the new canter lead without walking. Depending on if the exercise was appropriate, and if the rider aided and rode the change properly, the horse should perform a flying change. We never drill flying changes when we are beginning, at most I would ask for 2-3 per week for the first few weeks, or even months.
Now if you are looking for a lead swap, then you need to circle the horse in one direction, go really fast in the canter and then suddenly turn the other direction and hope first of all that the horse doesn't fall on you and second of all that it somehow ends up on the other lead. Then you have to do about 20 or so in the space of ten minutes.
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First thing is first, you actually have to teach the horse flying changes. The process is a bit lengthy to explain on the internet.. But basically you first need a horse that can do simple lead changes through the walk without the rider pulling, kicking or turning the horse into a circle. Then you also need to teach the horse how to do a balanced counter canter and from there we have something to work with. If the horse is not currently performing these movements easily, then you have to take the time to train her. Be prepared to work for a few months on this. Depending on the horse we need to then develop an exercise that is going to set the horse up for success in the changes and first practice it with our simple changes through the walk. When we have it down with simple changes, we then go through the same exercise, half halt for the downward transition but instead of finishing our half halt, we aid for the new canter lead without walking. Depending on if the exercise was appropriate, and if the rider aided and rode the change properly, the horse should perform a flying change. We never drill flying changes when we are beginning, at most I would ask for 2-3 per week for the first few weeks, or even months.
Now if you are looking for a lead swap, then you need to circle the horse in one direction, go really fast in the canter and then suddenly turn the other direction and hope first of all that the horse doesn't fall on you and second of all that it somehow ends up on the other lead. Then you have to do about 20 or so in the space of ten minutes.
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
I was also wondering about flying lead changes so I am glad someone else made a thread about it. I have an OTTB who I know CAN do lead changes, it's just that I don't know how to carry them out...
Also, if you have a horse that constantly gets on the wrong lead... most of the time... (going to the right) then what can I do to help get him on the right lead? Sometimes it takes a very long time, lots of half halts and rebalancing. Any pointers?

Thanks, E
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When you have a horse that consistently is picking up the wrong lead, you really need to evaluate yourself. If you are correctly setting up for the depart and riding it through without leaning, falling forward or otherwise unbalancing your horse he should be picking up the lead you ask for. If he is still not then it is either an obedience or soundness issuse. I would continue just picking away at it until you get the desired result. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day, apparently neither is a right lead canter depart.
As far as the lead changes just really work on a ton of canter-walk canter transitions all along the rail and through the ring to get him super supple and responsive. To prepare correctly think about "counting to three" to get into walk and canter. Then when you come to the flying change prepare for the walk counting 1-2-3 then between 3 and 4 where you would finish your half halt and begin the walk, aid for the new canter lead and on 4 he should be on the old one, you need to half halt to really rebalance and he should coil to spring up between 4 and 5 and on 5 is the first stride of the new lead. Don't let your hands interfere and rest them on the horse's withers.
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That was extremely helpful!!!
I will def. think about all of that the next time I go to ride. I try and set him up balanced and off of a turn, but I might be leaning forward or in or something...or it might just be because hes smart and pick up the wrong one even on turns... or I could be interfering in some way.

Ill have my mom record me so I can see exactly what I am doing and my position. I found that I am visual :)

Thanks tons! E
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