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how do i convince my boss to get rid of a cripple palamino mare...???

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ok so the title is like wow heartless but no, this mare is of no use and constantly undermines my progress with the 4 other geldings that are penned with her, i've tried askin my boss to keep her seperated from them he says ok the next morning i go back and she's been turned loose again. she's also crippled vet says the mri scan shows it in her cannon....i think its in her shoulder the way she walks but he's lisenced what do i know... my boss tells me she's a 5 thousand dollar horse....well she aint anymore and sorry folks that mare i wouldnt give 50 bucks for her mom was a great horse level headed and strong gait. she had that potential then something happend two years ago and she's been limping ever since, she cant hold wieght and all she does is get fat, way too sassy for her own good, and causes the geldings i work to act like stupid teenage boys.
however...this horse holds sentimental value to the bosses wife and daughter:? i understand this but when theres not much can be done with her she's a danger to my riders or people simply entering the corral in my opinion she needs to go.
she's run me over a few times and nearly had her hind legs in the middle of my back once or twice....i can handle this, i dont like it, but can. my fear is when i'm not around some kid or the boss or his family will get in there and she'll do what most mares do and end up trampling someone.
i can't get through to my boss he's a business man and finds my advice of little consequence apparently.
and no he knows nothing of horses he lives in times square when he's not up here playing tourist.
any ideas to get him to send her to the sale barn, theres not much the vet has given us advice on for two freakin years now. she needs to be gone for safety of her owners and any riders i have.
any ideas? because i've exhausted my efforts...
 
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#3 ·
You can't make people do anything, especially if they're the ones paying your salary.

You seem to believe you're the only person who understands horses in the area. You certainly don't seem to have any respect for the person paying you, and that's really ugly. I'd have fired you if you showed me that kind of attitude.

You have no right to overstep your boundaries and tell your employer to get rid of their horse.

So what if the mare is 'useless'? There are plenty of 'useless' horses out there being loved and cared for, because they mean more to their owners than just being an ATV with legs.

The mare has sentimental value to them, and you're merely an employee. If you don't want to work around or with the horse, find another job.
 
#4 ·
Couldn't you do some groundwork with the mare as well? Might improve her manners. If the other horses are that distracted by her when you're working them, their respect is with her and not you. Groundwork groundwork groundwork!

You can't make someone get rid of a loved one, no matter how naughty it is.
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#5 ·
In your other thread you said she'd only hurt herself last year? Honestly, it's not your call to get rid of that mare. If he wants to keep her, what do you care? You aren't paying the bills for her. If you can't gain a horses respect and get it to listen to you, you shouldn't be 'training' it. Tie the mare up where the geldings can't run back to her.
 
#6 ·
... Most mares don't trample people.... o_O

As long as your butt is covered liability wise and the owner is aware of the danger its pretty much out of your hands. Put a sign at gate, like "staff only" or "I kick".

It sounds like none of those horses respect you. So maybe its not a problem with the horses, its a problem with your horsemanship skills!
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#7 ·
It's not your place to tell him what to do with his horses, he pays YOU. I'd suggest you quit complaining and grow up a little. The horse obviously means something to him, and you have no say in this. Don't like it? find another job. Although if you continue with this self-righteous attitude I'm not sure if anyone would hire you.
 
#8 ·
I agree with the others you can not make anyone get rid of something they care about.. as long as the horse is being well cared for why do you honestly care. Grow some and get after her if shes being so aggressive, however not every horse has to be ridden they are perfectly happy to sit aroumd and if the owner can afford it then shut your mouth and either leave or suck it up. Sorry if its harsh but i think you are over stepping boundries that most would have fired you for already.
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#9 ·
If someone ever told me to get rid of my old, crippled mare who does nothing but get fat and too sassy for her own good, I'd tell them to hit the road! You're not the one paying for the horse so IMO you have NO say. And you're right, your post does sound heartless but even more so that of an unexperienced horse person. One mare undermines you around the other horses? It's called respect and if that's happening, then you don't have respect in the first place. That's not the mares fault, it's yours. Perhaps you need to find another barn to work at.
 
#10 ·
I think its quite rude of you to even try to have someone get rid of a horse that has sentimental value. Its not your place to say such a thing.

Even if you dont agree, you must respect his reasons. Thats called being a mature adult.

You dont own the property. You dont own the horses. So id mind my own business before you cross a line that you cant get back over...and wind up unemployed. If you were employeed by me and told me such a thing, your butt would be kicked to the curb that second.
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#13 ·
She's not your horse, and therefore its not your job to "get rid of the crippled mare.." Honestly, you should be taking it to your advantage she distracts the geldings, it shows you what you need to work on with the geldings. And it also shows that you aren't "training" them if they act up around her. Are you supposed to be training the mare? If you are, you are doing a fantastic job, since she runs you over and kicks you.

Welcome to the forum.
 
#15 ·
I have a crippled mare. Sometimes she tries to bully me because she doesn't get handled much so I remind her that I'm in charge. Sometimes the boys behave like boys because she's a sexy little thang but the boys have been taught manners and they know how to behave for their handler/rider...

Maybe you should get some help from a professional trainer so that you can handle these horses?

As for the mare. If your boss is owns her and pays for her keep and cares for her, then what business is it of yours...
 
#16 ·
poor mare, i think you should be gone and he should find new help around the place. you say she cant keep weight on but yet shes fat? my trainer has two yearlings taht cant be ridden that are crippled and he keeps them around with the other horses yet he doesnt complain. if his wife and daughter love this mare i dont think shes going anywhere but you might.
 
#58 ·
poor mare, i think you should be gone and he should find new help around the place. you say she cant keep weight on but yet shes fat? my trainer has two yearlings taht cant be ridden that are crippled and he keeps them around with the other horses yet he doesnt complain. if his wife and daughter love this mare i dont think shes going anywhere but you might.
I wondered that too. " she can't hold wieght and all she does is get fat',
 
#17 ·
To some people are horse just isn't a "horse" , it's a best friend , a child , a member of the family ! I don't care if my horses came up lame , I would keep them no matter what and I would be damned if someone told me to get rid of them ! When you have a passion for horses you just don't see them has something to do ! Ugh , I hope he puts you in your place !
 
#18 ·
Soooooo ... welcome to the forum! We are an opinionated bunch, aren't we??

I do agree with the rest, but wanted to add:

It doesn't really sound like you are in this for the horses, or for the people. So that makes it sound like you are only in this for YOU.

If you've been there for as long as you say, and you are still this unhappy and frustrated, get out. If these folks are paying you and you are not able to properly work with these horses, get out.

You've been there long enough that you MUST be getting SOMETHING out of it ....
 
#21 ·
Hey, no fun. I can't even chime in much on this one, everyone else has said everything...
I love your attitude towards your boss, the snarky comment about him living in times square and then coming there and playing tourist. Sounds like you have an issue with his financial status and since you think you are so much above him in knowledge, he should bow down to you...
grow up and accept your boundries. If you are being paid to be with the horses, then deal with it or quit. I am sure there are plenty of others more than happy to take your job with a much better attitude.
 
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I am absolutely stunned by this post. Do you really feel it's within your rights to force your employer to sell her horse? If you can't keep the attention of the horse you're working with, don't blame it on the mare, find a new job. From the sound of it, she has been exceedingly generous to keep you on board as paid staff.

I also have to respond to your comment about feeling your evaluation of the horse's lameness is superior to the vet's. Most leg lameness is in the lower leg and hoof, so when it looks to you like it's in the shoulder, the vet is probably right. An injury to the cannon will make the shoulder look off.
 
#24 ·
Were I you, I'd get my act together and beg someone to get rid of your posting. Ripping apart the way the man paying you chooses to run his business on a public forum? Pretty dumb, if you ask me. This might not be Facebook, but its a pretty popular site.

I'm not truly against people having a better idea of how to do something.. That's how better products and business come about, but I'd keep those feelings to myself until I could afford to find myself without a job, or better yet, had the collateral to start my own business.

As to the matter of the "useless crippled mare," who are you to determine that? I've been told many times that its "time to ship my old Paint gelding out," as he's just a big pasture ornament now.. But I would never consider getting rid of him.. Were I in a position to only feed one horse instead of four, he'd be the one I wouldn't try and find a new home for. If he's taking care of this mare, be that by doing so himself or paying someone else (you, of all people) to, then you should just zip those lips and get to work.
 
#26 ·
I completely agree with everyone on here. Also, how would you feel if your boss posted something on here saying how much they wanted to get rid of you? I wouldn't be surprised if that happens now.
You should pull your act together, because you are lucky you still have the job after this. Maybe someone here knows your boss? Maybe they told them about this? You wouldn't be able to know unless your boss or someone else told you....
Not smart
 
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