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how do i convince my boss to get rid of a cripple palamino mare...???

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    07-19-2012, 11:26 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by PunksTank    
I think they mean the horse can't be ridden and just gets fat - that being said - I like my horses fat and don't care if they can be ridden or not xD
Thanks, that makes more sense.
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    07-19-2012, 11:38 PM
This threads responses totally made my day.
    07-20-2012, 01:48 AM
Good Heavens, I hope to high hell I don't happen to break a leg or become useless in someones eyes, good Lord I may wind up in a can of dog food! What makes an animal or human for that fact useful to us? What they can do for us? NO! It's a life, a living thing, they have feelings! They are not expendable, they are not convieniences, not only here IF they perform or have a function, they are real live living feeling, breathing beings! Thank God the owner has enough morals and brains to know that being worthwhile does not depend upon what an animal can do for you. Blah.......... op, you need to find an office job where you are not dealing with animals/living/feeling beings.
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    07-20-2012, 02:14 AM
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Just to play the devil's advocate here, I will say that there are many places in the world where an animal that is not longer useful to it's owner must be got rid of. There are plenty of people who work with animals as stock cannot afford to keep on an animal that no longer is productive enough to earn it's own keep. It's sad, perhaps., but a milk cow that no longer produces milk cannot be kept by the farmer to live out it's "natural" life. The farme likely struggles to make a living as a dairy farmer as it is. He cannot afford to retire all his cows.
It's not necessarily hearless, it's business.

Some of us can give a crippled horse a lifetime home, but not everyone can afford to retire for life every animal that is no longer useful to them. That's dream land, not reality.

I am not saying this in support of this particular OP's attitude toward the mare, as it isn't her place to say whether the mare should stay or go. But, just bringing up the point that would you condemn all the farmers/ranchers who must either sell or kill the stock that is no longer productive or is crippled?
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    07-20-2012, 02:21 AM
I don't condemn the farmers and ranchers Tiny, I do agree with you on that aspect, however I do strongly disapprove of the OPs attitude. If the OWNER of the horse wants the mare around, the OP is getting PAID to do the job, and if they don't like it, they can get out.
    07-20-2012, 02:27 AM
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Also, Along with that point is the fact that just removing the mare becasue she is making training difficult does not solve the total problem. You cannot remove every "thing" that is a distration to your horse. As soon as you remove one, another will leap into it's place.
    07-20-2012, 02:32 AM
Green Broke
If the owner of the mare came on and said "I have this mare, she's crippled and I can not afford to feed and care for a horse who is not earning her keep" then I would completely understand. It's not how I am, but its the way things are for a lot of people.

That is not what happened here. Instead we have what appears to be a snotty teenager, blaming the mare for issues she's having with other horses. Issues that simply sound like shoddy training to me. Asking how to make the mare's owner get rid of her. THAT I do have an issue with. As long as the owner is happy to keep the mare around than the OP needs to shut her trap.
    07-20-2012, 02:39 AM
Tiny, Agreed 100%
    07-20-2012, 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Hancokblue    
this mare is of no use and constantly undermines my progress with the 4 other geldings that are penned with her
I am confused about why this is in the training section. Shouldn't your question read something more like: Need help getting a crippled horse to respect me without injuring it further.

The question you listed and your explanation truly makes it sound like you do not know how to handle horses, and if that is the case I would seriously question why you are working where you are at and not training under a good trainer or barn manger?

The horses are not having a little get together at the water trough talking about how they can under mind you with the palamino leading the revolt.

The palamino sounds bored and has no respect for you and is I am guessing the lead horse. The geldings sound like they are easier to handle but also have no respect for you. I would suggest not going in there without a lunge whip and if she starts to get after you then you get after her, don't back down hoot, hollar and act like a crazy person snapping that whip. If you can't deal with this horse you really should leave your job. If the horse is a fine quality animal but lame they can always breed her, the horse isn't useless, it's just useless to you and in your way.

I would like it explained who is putting her in with the geldings if your boss is rarely there and you are keeping her apart. Who exactly is putting her in there?
    07-20-2012, 04:17 AM
Your ignorance and heartlessness is seeping out of your pores and onto my computer screen....sickening

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