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  • How to create a good topline when riding
  • Horse with no topline at hindquarters

 
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    11-09-2008, 05:02 PM
  #1
Yearling
how do i create a topline???

Okay some of yall have explained it but I am still so confused. What do yall mean carry himself, I have been riding for four years, half a year with a lesson horse, then three owning my own but no lessons. I did english then went to western for like two years and some english here and there. But I relaized two weeks ago I have to create my balance again in that english saddle. Westerns alot easier but I want o jump duke and I like a challenge. I got injured the last time I rode eng and at that time I chose to quit I just do western well jumping is my passion and so is duke and it wasnt his fault so I am trying to get used to my new eng saddle I have only ridden in two times! But I know ill get it. Anyways back on my question.lol.. topline training???
     
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    11-09-2008, 05:17 PM
  #2
Weanling
A topline is how the horse is developed from his poll to tail. To develop a good topline you need muscle on his neck, back, and rump. You get these by riding exercises that encourage the horse to use his hind end, back, and neck. Ride over different terrain, encourage him to use his hind end, ride in a balanced frame, and work on lateral movement. It's not something that you get in a few weeks, it takes months of good exercise and training to develop a great topline! But start now or you'll never get it lol
     
    11-09-2008, 05:28 PM
  #3
Foal
Lots and lots and lots of trot work, making sure the energy is coming from the rear end. Think of his hindquarters as his motor and make sure he is pushing forward from there with energy and spring to the step.

Also, uphill work increases topline muscle development, so maybe take him for a trail ride every now and then and get him going up a couple of nice big hills - just don't push him too hard, he's got to develop the muscle steadily or he'll get sore - just like people do!
     
    11-09-2008, 05:40 PM
  #4
Yearling
Thanks guys. Anyone else got some ideas.. that's good then, alot of tro work will also help me with my balance..
     
    11-09-2008, 06:10 PM
  #5
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Connemara93    
Lots and lots and lots of trot work, making sure the energy is coming from the rear end. Think of his hindquarters as his motor and make sure he is pushing forward from there with energy and spring to the step.

Also, uphill work increases topline muscle development, so maybe take him for a trail ride every now and then and get him going up a couple of nice big hills - just don't push him too hard, he's got to develop the muscle steadily or he'll get sore - just like people do!
Thats what I was going to say... Gypsy had hardly no top line her hindquarters were under developed. I rode with her being more collected and also took her to the galloping hills to work her on. And I can see a huge difference. With going up that big hill it was fun for both and it didnt take to long for her to get a good work out and she wanted to keep at it! Try doing fun stuff your horse will want to work more :)
     
    11-09-2008, 06:33 PM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by travlingypsy    
Thats what I was going to say... Gypsy had hardly no top line her hindquarters were under developed. I rode with her being more collected and also took her to the galloping hills to work her on. And I can see a huge difference. With going up that big hill it was fun for both and it didnt take to long for her to get a good work out and she wanted to keep at it! Try doing fun stuff your horse will want to work more :)

Thanks anyone else got exercise ideas? I will put update pics after a month or a few when I can see a difference
     
    11-09-2008, 06:40 PM
  #7
Yearling
I bet you'll see a difference pritty fast :)
     
    11-09-2008, 08:50 PM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by travlingypsy    
I bet you'll see a difference pritty fast :)

Really..wow...i am starting a riding journal and I am writing down what I do and what I need to work on the next ride. I want to start riding him more and at a schedule pace. I will probably only be able to ride on sat and wed. Due to school then maybe some afternoons I will go down and just bond with him and do some exercises with him..

Okay new ?....
How do I get him collected? I will try to take some vids this weekend of his different paces.. if that will help.. and yall can critique on me and what he and me needs to work on.
     
    11-09-2008, 08:55 PM
  #9
Foal
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Originally Posted by katieandduke    

Okay new ?....
How do I get him collected? I will try to take some vids this weekend of his different paces.. if that will help.. and yall can critique on me and what he and me needs to work on.
To get him collected you have to use half halts. This means that you use your reins and your legs at the same time so that he is holding himself back from stretching out, but still keeping impulsion. You cannot just use your reins because then he will simply slow down and give you sluggish baby steps. I hope that makes sense - it's kinda hard to explain how to ask for half halt...
     
    11-09-2008, 09:48 PM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by katieandduke    
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Okay new ?....
How do I get him collected? I will try to take some vids this weekend of his different paces.. if that will help.. and yall can critique on me and what he and me needs to work on.

All I do is widen my reins but keep my hands where they were so low..This creats pressure on the mouth and your asking for the head once they drop the head even if its just an inch or smaller release right away and pet. Then ask the the drop again. If you want the head lower you can shorten the reins, or when you ask lower your hands farther down so you ask for more of the drop. Try that at the hault until he knows that it means to drop the head. Then try it at the walk that will build untill you can ask for him to be more rounded in the neck and poll. Once you get him to be fully collected you can ask at the trot and do a ten meter or 20 meter to help collect him.
I don't use half halts because for my horse it mean to slow down or steady the pace. But when asking at the walk,trot,canter you do need to have impulsion from the hind quarters so he as good steady spring in his steps.
But if you horse dosent know how to be collected then asking from the hault and having baby steps up to the canter is best. I hope that all makes sence and I explained that right
     

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