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post #31 of 37 Old 11-06-2011, 04:26 AM
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I have no advice to add since it has been given my outlook on this is the same as in child rearing or dog training to become the person they trust and respect you have to be consistent and when they decide to see if they can make you change (time and other obligations or sometimes driving a car makes this darn near impossible at times)Also if you look at the way horses train each-other you will see the natural kicking and biting that is well timed and precise and does not lead to injury if the horses can move out of the way.I Am not smart so that I can talk like the horses talk to each-other before dealing out a kick or a bite however since the horse also has to get to know me and how I work since I can not become a horse one has to sit down and figure out what is reasonable what is fair warning what is crossing the line and be consistent then your training will be effective and you also must have a goal make it simple and make sure you have the time to do it right.You can dull a horses response to anything with time so spooking your horse into submission is just going to get you back to the same problem you have now down the line.I think we are physical creatures and I sure got my bumps and bruises learning in life so will a horse and believe it or not I do not think you can escape physical contact and correction with the horse or any other creature where how and when to use it is a personal freedom and preference also realize that wordings like sending energy down the line of a lead-rope is the same as when a different person says give it a pull.What I am trying to offer as advice is to have a plan so that you can be consistent is more important.
If it makes you feel better my current plan involves haltering my yearling in the field with out issues.Riding my older mare away from the yearling with out issues..Work in progress
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post #32 of 37 Old 11-06-2011, 07:48 AM
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Do not let her rub on you. Horses will scratch each others withers, neck, back or rump but never the head. Your space is the length of your arm and she is to stay out of it. When you lead her give her about 3' of lead and flap your elbow periodically. This will keep her out of your space. You can teach respect by backing her, making her move her hindquarters over (always both sides), turning her away from you rather than toward you. When you turn her toward you she becomes the dominant one. When you turn her away, you are the dominant one.
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post #33 of 37 Old 11-07-2011, 02:55 AM Thread Starter
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due to the round pen getting wet we didnt lunge but we did ride our obstacle course in the pasture yesterday and it went really great :) I had almost no problem mounting (just a little movement) and when we started the course she kept throwing her head (she does this to purposefully rip the reins out of my hands then usually tries to run when she has her head). Usually I just tell her to stop it and we continue on our way (and she continues doing it) but today every time she threw her head down I did a hard one rein pull and made her do circles the quickly stop then back up, after 3 times she totally stopped throwing her head :) I feel like I have made some progress in the respect department and that made me happy!
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post #34 of 37 Old 11-09-2011, 01:12 PM
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All horses NEED ground work and round pen work! It doesnt matter how old or sound they are they all need it!!! I had the same problem with my mare so I took two whips. One was a lunge whip the other was a dressage whip.......I cracked the lunge whip and if she didnt move I poked her right in the corner of the mouth.....just enough to get her attention. Then when she finally move she tried to turn into me but since I had the other whip I pushed her away from me with the dressage whip at the corner of her mouth.....I did this several times until she finally got it!!!!
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post #35 of 37 Old 11-09-2011, 01:37 PM
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Horses respect those who command respect and follow those who know what they're doing. These things can't be faked (horses are good at reading people) but they can be learned.

To me, gaining a horse's respect begins by getting his attention. If your horse is disregarding you, chances are his attention is somewhere other than on you. I want my horses to be totally focused on me and relaxed at the same time. That's my ideal situation. To achieve that from them, I have to be able to be that way myself. Ray Hunt said that it has to come from inside the person, to the horse, and then you can take it back.

It sounds like your horse is already fairly at-ease with you so you're halfway there. IMO you're right for not wanting to beat your horse with a whip. If you did you'd most likely sacrifice that comfort that he feels when he's around you.

So how do you get a horse's attention? Same way you'd get a person's attention. If you say something to someone and they don't hear you, what do you do? Hit them with a stick? Hopefully not. Talk louder. Get their attention however you can.

Learn to be more assertive with your presence, project your intent through your body language more clearly and emphatically and the horse will respond. The stronger your body language becomes, the less you'll need to rely on whips and such.
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post #36 of 37 Old 11-09-2011, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Flicagirl View Post
All horses NEED ground work and round pen work!
I am going to disagree that all horses need round pen work. My 26 year old gelding and our 25 year old mare would readily agree with me. They know their jobs. I give beginner lessons on both of them and am always complimented on how well they behave.

The only time I work my 8 and 9 year olds in the round pen is regular undersaddle schooling when I would rather be outside than inside.

Every time you put a halter on a horse, it's ground work. They just don't need the continuous nagging with a stick and rope halter.
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post #37 of 37 Old 11-10-2011, 12:57 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks again for all the suggestions, we had a great breakthrough yesterday and even better today. I am really feeling like big changes are happening now that i have committed myself more fully to working with her over the last few weeks especially. YAY!!
I just have a hard time at being my normal soft spoken self and then being assertive enough to demand her respect. I just have to find that perfect place. we are definitely improving every day :)
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