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        10-24-2012, 03:23 PM
      #11
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    You are also free to change barns if this is a problem for you and the owner of the horse isn't going to do anything about it. No need to risk your own well being for an ill mannered horse. OH, and the occasional kicking and nipping are not ok on any level.
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        10-24-2012, 03:42 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    [quote=AlexS;1731159]
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    Originally Posted by countrylove    

    Agreed, but it's not her horse. And it's a massive liability to have someone working the horse on the BO's property, especially if the horse can be dangerous, and even more so if the person doesn't know what they are doing.
    Which is why I said with permission from the BO and her instructor there to help. I do agree that this is a huge liability and the BO needs to take responsibility. I was not suggesting that she should just go out and start round penning him right now. Sorry if I was misunderstood. These forums can be hard to communicate clearly on

    I think the main point WE ALL AGREE on is that the BO needs to do something about this problem and she needs to do something ASAP.

    Dangerous Horse + Public Barn = Disaster waiting to happen
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        10-24-2012, 04:29 PM
      #13
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    If he belongs to the BO, she has to know he's a major liability. The first time he seriously nails a youngster, she'll lose the whole farm and it won't be anyone's fault but her own.

    He sounds as if he's just fed up with being an up-and-down lesson horse. Sour, bad attitude, and taking it out on people he considers beneath him in the herd pecking order.

    Either his owner does something about him, or he's going to continue to escalate his behavior. This isn't your problem, dear. It's his owner's, and she needs to do something about it.
    He doesn't trust people easily either he was abused before he came to my barn
         
        10-24-2012, 04:32 PM
      #14
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    Originally Posted by Minniebee    
    He doesn't trust people easily either he was abused before he came to my barn
    That has nothing to do with how he's acting. People need to stop making excuses for horses who USED to be abused. He isn't being abused now, and needs to be put in his place when he acts like a donkey's butt.

    Besides, how do you KNOW he was abused? Did you actually see it with your own eyes, or is just something you heard from somebody at some time to excuse his heinous behavior?

    Previous abuse may be an explanation, but it's not an excuse to *****foot around or baby him. If he needs a Come to Jesus Meeting, he should get one.
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        10-24-2012, 04:53 PM
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    Originally Posted by Minniebee    
    He doesn't trust people easily either he was abused before he came to my barn

    That doesn't mean is shouldn't be respectful to people.
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        10-24-2012, 05:02 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Minniebee    
    He doesn't trust people easily either he was abused before he came to my barn
    That sort of thinking only makes these problems worse - people will excuse all sorts of behavior because a horse was abused, neglected, was a "rescue", etc -- the fact of the matter is, horses live in the NOW, not the past - humans insisting on thinking of them as an abuse victim is nothing but a handicap to these horses and an excuse for them to never be expected to behave properly.
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        10-24-2012, 05:26 PM
      #17
    Showing
    Minniebee, horses learn to read people in a heartbeat and will do what they can to get away with whatever crosses their mind at the time. This often leads newbies into believing the horse was previously abused which must account for his behaviour. You say he doesn't misbehave around the BO. If he was abused he'd be lashing out at the BO as well but with the BO he knows he'd be stepping over his bounds. This happens in a herd situation as well. A horse may challenge younger horses yet will rarely challenge the lead horse without suffering the consequences.
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        10-24-2012, 06:29 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    I work for a rescue organization and I also own a rescued horse. Biggest Mistake Ever is letting their past become an excuse.

    My mare has ALOT of issues because of her being "babied" after she was rescued by her last owner. She was fed straw and bread and was left in a pasture to fend for herself with no shelter. So her last owner felt sorry for her, brought her home and spoiled the crap out of her. After a while she started to become very disrespectful and dangerous which is one of the main reasons her last owner had to get rid of her (and how I ended up with her). She has a ton of bad habits and was allowed to get away with everything because she was "cute" and neglected. I now have my hands extremely full, not that I would change adopting her for the world I love my mare but it has been a lot of hard work and frustration and injuries, luckily nothing major. And all the hard work is paying off.

    Another personal experience which I contributed to without realizing, is one of our rescues at the organization, who had never ever been handled in her 3 yrs of life. So when we could finally handle her, she was of course spoiled. Now I have to run off a 16 hh TB every time I go into the pasture because she will run you over for attention and will attack the other horses for attention as well. I have been caught between her and my mare and its not a pretty or fun situation.

    When you said he was a rescue, that right there is the problem. It is not his fault. Its people`s attitude towards him. Treat him like any other horse, stop making excuses and I bet you see a huge difference in him.

    And again MAKE THE BO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER/HIS DANGEROUS HORSE BEFORE SOMEONE GETS SERIOUSLY HURT.

    There is never any excuse for kicking or biting (my 2 biggest pet peeves) and disrespectful horses should not be used for lessons or allowd around people who can not handle him. Maybe you should just switch barns. Sounds like the BO is closing their eyes to this situation and ignorance is not always bliss.

    I really really hope no one gets hurt <3 Good Luck Minnibee
         
        10-24-2012, 07:13 PM
      #19
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    To the OP.....

    What I would personally do, since this horse seems to be an issue for you at your barn. I would exchange three riding lessons for groundwork lessons with this horse....from getting him in from the field, lunging, dealing with him in the stall......you might find that you enjoy the challenge and reward of groundwork a lot better than you do riding!

    It would be a big confidence builder for you and make your time at the barn a positive experience.

    Good luck

    Remember some people are just riders......some people are horsemen.....(or women if you want to get all uptight about equality!)
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        10-25-2012, 07:14 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Thanks for your help and I've asked around and most people say the best way to handle him is to just be confident and take any of his crap
         

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