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    03-11-2013, 02:17 AM
  #21
Foal
I guess people just see horses differently. Some people see horses as hobbies for competition, others see them as pets, and others see them as personal projects. None of those are wrong, I just wanted to be able to understand because I just couldn't comprehend why people would be okay sending their horses off for training for months and not feel like they were just skipping out on the bonding and going straight for performance.
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    03-11-2013, 02:31 AM
  #22
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Laffeetaffee, your posts remind me of a strong willed character in a horse movie!! I mean that in a respectful way, by the way.


I get what your saying-- kinda pointless to buy a young, un-started horse just to send to trainer. I can agree with that. Some people have their reasons, age, health, lack of knowledge, not wanting to train a horse, etcetera.. as for the show horses-- they were probably bought via bloodline by someone who has a barn full of show horses, and aint got the time to train, but has the money to blow.. not because they wanted to break a young horse, or because they want the satisfaction of training the horse themselves..

I wouldnt want to buy a young horse that I would have to train for my own personal use-- id much rather buy one that's trained already.. I think its safe to say id have a horse sent to the trainer out of lazyness/impatience, and it being overwhelming sometimes, even.. and I've got many years experience with horses. :)
     
    03-11-2013, 02:36 AM
  #23
Started
In some areas it's also cheaper to buy a younger untrained horse and send them off to have them started / trained for you. You get them back and honestly what's the difference between that and buying a horse that was trained prior to purchase?
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    03-11-2013, 02:44 AM
  #24
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Originally Posted by alexischristina    
In some areas it's also cheaper to buy a younger untrained horse and send them off to have them started / trained for you. You get them back and honestly what's the difference between that and buying a horse that was trained prior to purchase?
Because when they weren't yours you didn't have the opportunity to be able to help train them. If you buy them and then send them off to a trainer, you're opting out for that opportunity because you're saying you don't want to be involved in that aspect of their lives, whether for time difficulty, a lack of ability, or you're just not interested. And a lot of people are arguing that they simply can't train a horse which is why they send them to a trainer, but I want to ask, why not join in and be trained to train?
     
    03-11-2013, 02:48 AM
  #25
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Originally Posted by Laffeetaffee    
Because when they weren't yours you didn't have the opportunity to be able to help train them. If you buy them and then send them off to a trainer, you're opting out for that opportunity because you're saying you don't want to be involved in that aspect of their lives, whether for time difficulty, a lack of ability, or you're just not interested. And a lot of people are arguing that they simply can't train a horse which is why they send them to a trainer, but I want to ask, why not join in and be trained to train?
Because horses are big animals, and some people would rather have their horse trained for them and avoid the danger of riding a greenie. And some people want their horses trained correctly by a trainer, while I do agree that if you want to be 'trained to train' that it's an awesome opportunity, some people don't want energy wasted on them that could be better spent on training their horses. Some people just aren't interested in 'training'. Even with the help of a trainer, some people still can't train a horse. You're not necessarily saying you don't want to be involved, horses in training take a LOT more time than finished horses. Someone who might have time to ride a couple times a week might not have time to ride 5 - 7 times a week.
     
    03-11-2013, 03:07 AM
  #26
Green Broke
So does this mean we can only buy young or untrained horses?? What about all the other horses out there, are we not supposed to buy them or give them homes because someone else has ridden or trained them?? I get what you are saying but had to throw this out there. And with good training no matter who does it we are making it more likely that the horse will not end up in a bad situation and always be useful.
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    03-11-2013, 03:29 AM
  #27
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Originally Posted by nvr2many    
So does this mean we can only buy young or untrained horses?? What about all the other horses out there, are we not supposed to buy them or give them homes because someone else has ridden or trained them?? I get what you are saying but had to throw this out there. And with good training no matter who does it we are making it more likely that the horse will not end up in a bad situation and always be useful.
I'm not saying we should only buy young untrained horses and train them ourselves, I'm saying if we DO buy a young untrained horse, why would someone feel okay about sending them off to someone else to be trained, rather than join in on the training and learn how to train? When we train horses, we're basically teaching them how to speak to us and bond with us, it's a very personal and sentimental aspect of owning a horse, and you're making it someone else's job. I understand now that many people don't view horses like that, horses can be more like hobbies and competitive accomplishments for the person, I just happen to see them differently.
     
    03-11-2013, 03:35 AM
  #28
Started
Because they do. Because it makes them feel safer, they don't have time, they don't know how, etc. training is more professional than it is personal, horses need to learn respect and a rider wanting to use training as a time to just develop a bond can be a rider at risk of doing something wrong. Not saying you're one of those riders, just thy 'training' isn't so 'DIY', if that makes sense.
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    03-11-2013, 03:55 AM
  #29
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Originally Posted by alexischristina    
Because they do. Because it makes them feel safer, they don't have time, they don't know how, etc. training is more professional than it is personal, horses need to learn respect and a rider wanting to use training as a time to just develop a bond can be a rider at risk of doing something wrong. Not saying you're one of those riders, just thy 'training' isn't so 'DIY', if that makes sense.
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I don't think it has to be so DIY. If a person doesn't know how to train, they don't know how to train. But they can take their horse to a trainer and the trainer can train the horse while explaining to the owner "now I want to teach this horse to flex laterally using only a light tension on the rein. When I pick up the rein and he turns his head, I reward by letting go. Then I pick up on the rein again and he turns his head and I let go. Now you try." In ten minutes, both horse and owner have been taught something. I can understand not all owners are going to be so easy to teach, but if the owner wants to learn, they have every right to try and learn.
     
    03-11-2013, 04:08 AM
  #30
Foal
I have my horse in full training board and my trainer rides him at least once a week. If I had a young, green horse she would most likely do nearly all the riding for quite a while, and if I moved away I would happily ship any new horses to her for training for a few months. I am a quite good rider, but I am not a trainer and I think those are different things. I don't know how to start a horse, I have very little experience riding green horses and I am not about to start practicing on what I hope will be my future GP mounts because I do not feel I can afford the mistakes. It would not be fair to either of us. I want to set those horses up for success in every way possible so of course I will go to an expert who I have seen teach so many horses how to be dressage horses with kindness and respect.
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