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post #1 of 32 Old 02-02-2010, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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How do you show your horse your 'boss'?

My horse seems to think he can take advantage of me, and he thinks that he is the boss not me. So how do you show your horse, your boss?
(Note : I don't have an arena :( )
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post #2 of 32 Old 02-02-2010, 11:10 PM
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Grab a lunge line and a lunge whip, and work the crap out of him. Lots of changing directions and lots of changing gaits....when you control his feet, you control the horse.

Also work on ground work. If he gets pushy while walking on a lead rope, throw your elbow into his shoulder to get him to move over and remind him its your space. If he starts walking into you (say you're standing in front of him) back him up, and if he won't back up on cue, MAKE him do so....use very "big" body language (square shoulders, stand tall, be deliberate in where you're stepping) and get into his space, swing your lead rope at his chest, wave your hands, whatever it takes for him to move. Don't let him rub his head on you, swing his butt at you, or pin his ears when you try to touch him. Work on yielding his hindquarters and forequarters away from you, as well as side passing.

Those are just the basics. Giving us more info will help us get more specific :)
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All you have to do is force him to do something. It can be as easy as walking him in a tight circle or as difficult as lunging him for a half an hour. It depends on how much convincing he needs... but making him do something you want him to do will take care of it 90% of the time.
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I do lunge him for about 10 minutes before I ride, but when I get on and start riding to a certain area, he starts backing up to try to turn around to go back to the barn. Also, when I am cantering or trotting him, he canters/trots sideways and I have to pull his head around to make him go back to the area. This is very irritating to do every 5-10 minutes. I can't enjoy my ride when he is doing this
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I don't boss anything.
I suggest and lead.
I teach and help.
I spend time with them and build trust.
I listen.

"The greatest strength is gentleness."
- Iroquois Proverb
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I do lunge him for about 10 minutes before I ride, but when I get on and start riding to a certain area, he starts backing up to try to turn around to go back to the barn. Also, when I am cantering or trotting him, he canters/trots sideways and I have to pull his head around to make him go back to the area. This is very irritating to do every 5-10 minutes. I can't enjoy my ride when he is doing this
So he's gate/barn sour?
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I had pretty much the same problems you do with my 10 year old. Honestly, I just got tired of it, ditched the 'lunge/groundwork/start-from-the-beginning' method, got on and rode him like the devil for a good hour or so. I cantered, galloped, chased him up down and under everything. No begging, no pleading, just flat out ride-'em-till-they-lick. Keep it changing constantly, get your adrenaline up, scream, holler, and yell. Be the alpha!


Before:
Refused, herd sour, barn sour, reared, bucked, cowhopped, went every which way, ignored commands, etc.

After:
Listened. Obeyed leads. Eager and willing to go out and let out those long legs. Happy. Riding finally enjoyable again.


Sometimes, you gotta ditch the plead-and-beg. Sometimes you just gotta take your boot and stick it right in his behind.
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I like to put things simply, so that's what I'll do. Make your horse be the one to move their feet and not you. The horse that is above the other in the pasture is the one that can make the other one move. Use this same idea when trying to build a leadership role. One key to remember when you apply pressure, make it non-emotional and very business like with very quick release timing. But not too quick to where you fail to follow through. And yes you do need to be "boss". Why some people try to make that term negative I don't know but it is wrong to do so. A good boss has leadership skills, a plan, and a system and process for becoming successful and helping his employees to become successful, because if his employees succeed, he succeeds. What is so negative about that?

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^^Thats what I was going to suggest if its just an issue of being sour, just ride them no-nonsense like twogeldings said. My guy was HORRIBLY gate sour, so I just started paying attention to where in the arena and along the rails he started to fight....I'd re-cue him as a reminder "hey, i'm not done yet" and keep on working him.
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I don't boss anything.
I suggest and lead.
I teach and help.
I spend time with them and build trust.
I listen.
let me guess... parelli.


OP- I agree with PaytonSidesHorsemanship. Think about how horses communicate naturally and build off of that.
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