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    01-26-2008, 01:32 AM
  #21
Foal
Just to say this again but I don't have the money for a trainer. Im not rich.
     
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    01-26-2008, 02:03 AM
  #22
Showing
Okay, I'm sorry I must have missed that in earlier posts.

How many times have you tried to ask for the headset? I can tell you right now it's not going to be an overnight fix.. like RegardingHorses said, it's going to take a ton of persistance and may take a long time, but eventually your horse should start coming into your hands.

Remember: Keep your inside hand steady, and check and release with the outside hand while keeping leg pressure on and asking the horse forward. (the best gait to start on is probably the walk or trot if your horse has a steady 1-2-1-2 trot. Because you want to encourage forward motion, I wouldn't want to start asking at the halt.. also your horse might get confused and think you want "back up" instead.) Your horse will resist at first, so you can check harder but not longer if she pits her jaw against you.

Maybe if you could post a couple of pictures or a video we might be better able to help?
     
    01-29-2008, 12:42 AM
  #23
Yearling
I have a question along these lines. My stallion was a "gaper" when it came to any amount of steady contact on the bit until I started working with a trainer last summer when he was five. We spent a lot of time working with serpentines and circles getting him to respond to my seat and legs, working on lateral flexion, suppling him up, balance and rhythm, and establishing his headset.

When I have him working properly, he now has a very balanced, flowing movement with a proper headset (this is after much warm-up, and a lot of work). But this is with quick reminders of head position and no contact otherwise (more western style).

I would like to do a little more english and dressage next season, but although my boy learned to drive through light rein contact reminders, he still feels like he leans on the bit or pushes through (feels heavy) with steady contact. He is no longer a gaper, and he will go into frame, but he really is only light with quick contact reminders while driving (fine for western, but not english).

I am wondering if it is just a matter of time and practice with sessions with constant contact?? Or, is there some hole in the training?? Am I missing something? He is coming along nicely, but I don't like that heavy feel when I take up steady contact. It does help when I really drive him with my seat and legs.

I don't know if that made sense??
     
    01-29-2008, 05:10 AM
  #24
Trained
I don't know if this has been said yet or not but the last post I read of yours said about how you werent getting any response. Firstly, you probably would notice any chance straight away. These things can take time and even longer for them to get into the right frame without much effort.

Secondly, if your horse has never been trained to go onto the bit then his muscle tone etc wont make it easy for him to get into or keep that frame.

Lunging with side reins etc can help. Its good for building muscle tone and helping the horse into a good frame. Don't overuse this though.

As with pantene 'it wont happen overnight, but it will happen' :)
     
    01-29-2008, 04:02 PM
  #25
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzyrider
i don't know if this has been said yet or not but the last post I read of yours said about how you werent getting any response. Firstly, you probably would notice any chance straight away. These things can take time and even longer for them to get into the right frame without much effort.

Secondly, if your horse has never been trained to go onto the bit then his muscle tone etc wont make it easy for him to get into or keep that frame.

Lunging with side reins etc can help. Its good for building muscle tone and helping the horse into a good frame. Don't overuse this though.

As with pantene 'it wont happen overnight, but it will happen' :)
Do you mean me Jazzy? I don't think I have posted that I am not getting response? I actually do think I can benefit from the suggestion of using side reins though :)....it has been a while since I have used those on my boy.
     
    01-29-2008, 06:20 PM
  #26
Trained
No no not you :) it was to the original poster :)
     
    02-15-2008, 05:34 PM
  #27
Foal
AKPaintLover: what kind of bit are you using when you try to keep a steady contact? If you are using a western shank bit, it may not put the right kind of pressure on his mouth. If it's some kind of snaffle, there's a different issue. It would help us to know which you are using.
     
    02-18-2008, 07:26 AM
  #28
Foal
It's very-very hard to teach an elder horse to anything. He will learn slowly and forget fast just like elephant babies... (So we say here). Rounds and arcs are good, but it is not enough do it only once, you must keep on asking him again and again. He will not to this for you for the first, second or third time. He has to understand what do you want of him, you probably ask him somthing that were never asked before. No method to substitute the patience.
Even if you are not so wealthy, you may be able to pay a trainer once a week or once in two weeks. She or he showes you what to do and you practice it on the other days. Of course it is not as good as you would be trained every day but it's better than nothing.
     
    02-18-2008, 12:51 PM
  #29
Showing
Amen, daroczy!
     
    02-18-2008, 06:18 PM
  #30
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by regardinghorses
AKPaintLover: what kind of bit are you using when you try to keep a steady contact? If you are using a western shank bit, it may not put the right kind of pressure on his mouth. If it's some kind of snaffle, there's a different issue. It would help us to know which you are using.
Regarding horses, I have been riding him in only a snaffle (though I have to show in a curb in this upcoming season). It is shown in my avitar - I keep the reins on the snaffle attachment always with no curb chain. I was hoping to switch training to the curb attachment in the days before a show, but otherwise, do not use that part. It is a single joint, which he seems fine with, but I also have a double joint in that style.

I took out the side reins again last week to try to help him accept the pressure better in that way (he is nowhere near as bad as he was last winter - when he gaped at direct pressure). I was thinking of throwing the side rein workout into the training schedule 1 or 2 times a week (I am back up to working him almost daily again now). I also started including riding with contact (more english style) for the first part of my warm-up and then going to practicing a loose rein western jog for the second half of warm up.

Anyhoo - that is what I am trying so far, and I just started about a week ago. At this point though, he works pretty well off a loose rein, but is not incredibly responsive with contact, and does really lean into contact (not in the desirable way where his body is light and responsive, but in the way where he feels to be falling into the contact and is unable to respond quickly and lightly to cues because of it).

I probably made it sound worse than it really is. I would say that it is mostly a finishing/refining issue - definitely not a control or response issue (because he responds well to other body cues). He just feels sluggish.

I would appreciate advise or exercises though. :) :)
     

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