thanks I think I will do this with out food as his previous owner always just gave him food, which hasn't made him bratty but he has been taught to just reach out for food which isn't his fault, and yh I don't ever get time to do ground work because my lease is that I do what the owner just tells me to do with the horse so I just ride him english because that's what im told to do. Thanks Saddle bag that sounds like a good idea getting him to touch a target but I probably wont have time any more to get him to bow again but if I ever do at least I know now :)
As owner has come back so just back to the riding 3 times a week in the arena or paddock, I suppose I can sneak a bow in every couple of weeks considering I ride him bareback from the paddock using the halter one reined every while and then XD
The foolish reject what they see, not what they think,
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