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    04-02-2013, 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by IceDancer94    
For those that are unaware of this method:

Horse head-shaking syndrome - YouTube

(My mare exhibits the same exact pattern of headshaking as this horse.)
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Well, it's an exercise in futility and a touch dangerous IMO. Most allergen particles (pollen is anywhere from 10-1000 microns in size) are small enough to pass through the panty hose with no problem. To give you an idea of how small a micron is, see this link
How Big is a Micron

Or if you'd like . < that period is about 600 microns. I'd call the Vet back out and have the horse properly tested for allergies or have her nose scoped
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    04-02-2013, 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by franknbeans    
If I were the mare I wouldn't tolerate it either! Using something like this to help ?solve? Head shaking? I would think it would get much worse with this on. I would also caution you-that it may get clogged with mucous and make it tough for her to breathe leading to panic. Personally, I have not heard a worse idea in a long time.
I couldn't believe it either, I thought it was the stupidest idea I had ever heard until I saw it in action. It really is stunning, the horse goes around shaking his head and clearly uncomfortable, then the person stops the horse, puts the muzzle on, and lunges the horse again. The horse goes around perfectly normal as if nothing had ever bothered him in his life. It is strange and I'm not quite sure how it works, but it does work
    04-02-2013, 10:33 PM
^^ It appeared to on the horse in the video. I would need more than seeing one person and one horse to believe it would work in more than that one case. As we all know, anyone can make anything look good on Youboob if they want. Just look at some of the training stuff on there. Sorry-I still am a skeptic-but if the OP wants to try it-her horse and her hose.
    04-02-2013, 10:37 PM
Okay, did a little rooting around the internet and came up with this

"Still other horses have shown a dramatic improvement with the addition of a fringe, net, or solid covering over the lower part of the face. A popular trick is to cut a tube of mesh from stockings or pantyhose and to sew it to the noseband of the bridle or halter so that it gently hugs the horse’s muzzle. Although no one is sure why this helps, the theory is that the sensation of a fringe or net interrupts the annoying and painful nerve signal. Yes, it looks strange, but the horse’s relief is so obvious that it might be worth a try!"

That makes more sense to me, I can see where that might help a neurological issue as opposed to an allergy.
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    04-02-2013, 10:40 PM
That makes more sense. Not for allergies, tho...I have this gross vision of crusty yukkiness on my guy gets during pollen season on his long nose fly mask. Gross.
    04-02-2013, 10:45 PM
I still haven't a clue as to how to get a horse to wear one though. Perhaps start out with one of those fly duster browbands like I use on the trail attached to the nose band to get the horse used to the idea. Or take some tule (wedding veil material) and make a loose baggie that would fit all the way around and gradually tighten it.
    04-02-2013, 11:16 PM
I've given up on pantyhose, Bridge just won't have it! Can't blame her. I did find a very inexpensive nose net online (called my tack shop, they can order it in for me) that I am definetely going to give a try. From the reviews I've read, it has been very successful:
Cashel Quiet Ride Nose Net - Adams Horse and Pet Supply

I still am not 100% sure, though, if it's allergies. The head ticking began late winter, and has no ceased. Does not occur much in her stall, when she's just standing outside, walking on the lead rope, in cross ties, etc. The only time it occurs is about 10 minutes into being worked, and then for a short time after she's done being worked. From the research I've done, there are three "main causes" that are known: light sensitivity (ruled out), allergies, and something called EPM. But because she doesn't do it constantly, only when being worked, what could that possibly mean? We are going to start wetting her hay, I am wondering if the quality of the hay just isn't that great (as it never is in winter) and she is being exposed to allergens through that.

Any input is greatly appreciated...I'm going to order the Cahsel nose net tomorrow and eager await it's arrival to give it a shot. Hopefully she will take that better! Do you think because it doesn't go over her mouth she will have a better response to it?
    04-02-2013, 11:22 PM
That "something called EPM" is no joke. Has your vet ruled it out? Are there possums around where you are? Worth looking into I would think rather than trying nose nets.
    04-02-2013, 11:26 PM
Originally Posted by franknbeans    
That "something called EPM" is no joke. Has your vet ruled it out? Are there possums around where you are? Worth looking into I would think rather than trying nose nets.
We do not have possums in our area, so I do not think EPM could be the case.

I should also add, I did not mean to come across as if I thought it was a joking matter, my mistake! I do not remember if EP was ruled out or not. If the $9 nose net doesn't work, I'll request an EPM test.
    04-02-2013, 11:29 PM
Your hay is all local? I sure would rule it out if it were mine......JMHO.

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