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        01-25-2010, 05:11 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    I always said no matter what if she didnt like a disipline I would switch. Which im trying but I see a jump and just want to go over it a few times lol!

    Im trying to see if I can get a trial with that mare in teh ad and see if I can live with selling Chance for this horse. I have a feeling I know the answer but we'll see.
         
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        01-25-2010, 05:20 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Haven't read the entire thread. But I have sold a horse because he wasn't able to do the discipline that I wanted him to. He was much happier doing western than jumping.

    Put A LOT of thought into it. It's a big decision...
         
        01-25-2010, 05:27 PM
      #13
    Trained
    I wound up selling my Appy this fall for a couple of different reasons; 1) he had no desire to do dressage, or pleasure. He was trained as a gaming horse, and even with a lot of work put into him to get him to calm down, as soon as you put an inclination to work on canter work, he would get fired up. He was also difficult to handle for inexperienced riders, and I like to share my horses with others, and with him, I couldn't use him in that capacity. 2) he had a really nasty streak...again, I could handle him without any issues, but even after all the time I put into him, he would still get aggressive and pushy for people who didn't know how to handle a horse. I work and live at a boarding school, so having a horse like that around was not going to be ideal at all, so I made the decision to find a new home for him.
         
        01-25-2010, 05:31 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    I think it's only fair to the horse that you either sell it or change disciplines, it's not fair to them to force them to do what they clearly don't like and it's nice to see that some people are willing to put aside their feelings or hopes and do what's best for the horse even if it's hard for you.

    I hope that didn't come off as rude in any way, I didn't mean it to. Sorry! LOL
         
        01-25-2010, 06:44 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    It also comes down to how competitive you are as a person and what your own dreams and aspirations are. While it is noble to say, well, I will change what I am doing to suit the horse, if you have dreams of becoming an Olympic level jumping competitor then that is not fair on you. If you have great goals for yourself in jumping then you do need to work to attain them. Which means you will have to get a different horse regardless.

    On the other hand if you enjoy popping over jumps just because they are there well you probably don't need to sell Chance. My horse is 3/4 draft breed, she is pretty but hefty, she moves well but not with exceptional agility, she holds herself well but still looks like a brick. I am looking forward to teaching her to jump, she will never be a great jumper but there is no reason we can't pop over a few jumps of an afternoon for something different. I will also dabble in some dressage and western pleasure, anything that catches my attention really. My point is I am a non competitive person so my horse will be made to dabble in lots of things but not rigourously enough to become stressful for her. If you are or plan to become a competitive rider it is probably in both yours and the horses best interest to part ways.
         
        01-25-2010, 06:49 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    I've been in that predicament and I kept her. However, let it also be noted, Zierra could go lame in three legs tomorrow and I would still keep her. It's not a big deal for me because I've always been multi-disciplined. Zierra was a little different - Zierra hates "control". She can't tolerate schooling in a ring for hours - she's a trail horse by nature and it's what she excells at. She's good at jumping, but due to her size, wouldn't make a good show horse around here (biased against Arabs to boot) so I wanted to try Dressage - she HATED it. Completely shut down on me. I realized that turning her into a show horse would mean breaking the spirit I love in her so much, so I have up any aspirations of showing with her. She'd rather be a trail/endurance/gaming pony and so that's what she'll be.

    I love doing everything, and I'm letting Jynx follow the same path - I'll let her tell me what she's happiest doing. I have no aspirations to be a show rider, if it happens, great, it would definitely be fun, but my world will not end because I never make it there.

    It's all about who you are, what you want and the weight that goes between them.
         
        01-25-2010, 07:07 PM
      #17
    Banned
    I had a wonderful horse that I absolutely adored; he was simply the best horse on a cross country course ever and a brilliant jumper. But as a typical OTTB, dressage was never his strong suit. He would do it, with sort of that martyred air TBs in the dressage ring can have, but he never, ever, truly, relaxed his back and was 'thorough.' One event he gave what I truly thought was the best test he was capable of, obedient, all the movements happening at the letters, square halts. If not exactly happy, at least willing. Scores were mostly 5s and an occassional 6, 7 in the collective marks for me, and the comment "mincing" next to the trot work. The test score left us third from the bottom of the division, in that unpleasant postion of waiting for someone to mess up in xc and stadium so we could move up. Hard in the eventing world, when you're buds with most of the people you compete against, to hope someone screws up so you can place.

    I had to ask myself why I was doing this, why I was torturing myself and this completely lovely horse that I adored. Fortunately, the previous year, a local trainer and friend started a series of schooling jumper shows. He became a jumper and a much happier horse, and I found a little green horse (avatar horse) to event. Don't know what I would have done with him if the jumper thing hadn't worked out.
         
        01-25-2010, 08:43 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    Well, for me I know that I just don't have the funds to be competitive, so I just look for a good personality in my horses and I do what they want to do. Maybe this will change as I get older, but for now it works out. If I buy a horse chances are that it will stay with me for life because I'm more in it for the bond than the competition.

    So now I'm going to totally throw you off and tell you that I am an extremely competitive person ;) I still have my aspirations of becoming a great rider, so I work like crazy so that I can take lessons on horses that will do what discipline I want to do. In the end though, when it pertains to my animals I am just too attached to them to ever give them up.

    I think it really comes down to what you're in it for. Do you need to be competitive on your horse? Is there any way that you can pursue your dreams in another way (through lessons, etc.)? How deep is your connection to that horse and could you deal with the day that someone comes to pick up that horse and bring her away forever?
         
        01-25-2010, 09:31 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Not meaning to be the one to say this but I have alwaysfelt that you. Have chance never got along and probably never will. She is a left brain introvert...by the sounds of it you are definitely not. I feel that it is better to sell her to someone that will understand her and know how to work with her horsenality.
         
        01-25-2010, 10:23 PM
      #20
    Started
    Heart is created in the horse in a lot of cases. The horse having heart is earned. Sure, some horses aren't the competative type, but that doesn't mean they can't do a certain thing. It's up to us to make things...anything...fun for the horse. I'm a big big big believer in cross-training. With my warmblood, I want to work him on cows someday (gotta find some cows first! Lol) but my goals with him are jumping and dressage. All in all, he finds the principle of dressage boring...it's full of repitition, a lot of times including circles, and for his horsenality he finds that VERY boring. Does that mean he can't do dressage? Nope, it just means it's up to me to help him realize how good dressage can feel (he in turn puts more effort into doing what I ask) and it's up to me to play in a way that incorporates dressage but does not bore him. By looking at him you'd never know he thought dressage was boring at one time! Lol. But that's because I've developed try and heart in him and he WANTS to do what I ask of him...because I've done the right things for his horsenality.

    I can't tell you what to do. If it was me, I'd develop Chance more in the foundation areas (developing try, heart, desire, ambition, etc) and go from there. At the extreme, I'd switch what I wanted to do to make my horse happy. Any horse can jump, but of course some just aren't cut out to be big time jumpers.
         

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