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    02-22-2011, 12:11 PM
  #21
Weanling
You should be allowed to watch - it's your horse.
A good trainer will want you to watch so that you will know what to do with them afterwards. When I help people I will only do it in their presence.
A good trainer will not hurt your horse and will make everything very clear to you and your horse and works calmly and slowly.
The horse should seem happier at the end of each session - not stressed or upset or nervous. Good trainers always have that as their goal - no matter what has happened during the session.

Have I said too much or does that help?
     
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    02-22-2011, 12:14 PM
  #22
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by horsplay    
just for my own curiosity. Would you be more apt to go to some one who requires you to come so many hours and work with trainer and horse before the horse is sent back home to ensure the rider is satisfied and can work with the horse well before sending them home and there being a problem? I am thinking of adding this into my contract 1 to cover my butt and 2 because I actually care about horse and rider and both being happy and satisfied.
Personally, if that was a requirement, I would find a different trainer. I'm sending my horse off for a tuneup because I am selling her. My horse wants to never set foot in a Dressage arena again, so I chose a trainer that will give her a tuneup in what she likes and is good at and I will then sell her to someone who wants a good trail horse. For me to spend hours working with my horse and the trainer would be a waste of time and $$$ as I am not keeping her.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:20 PM
  #23
Yearling
I wouldn't say hours but if I could work with the trainer and my horse for maybe the last couple of sessions that would make me a lot more comfortable. Tuneups I would say are a little different than completely teaching a horse to accept a rider and what you are expecting to get back. So maybe specify the type of training you would require the owner to be there for.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:27 PM
  #24
Banned
I would expect training to be a couple of hundred over the board rate at the facility.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:29 PM
  #25
Foal
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Originally Posted by Delfina    
Personally, if that was a requirement, I would find a different trainer. I'm sending my horse off for a tuneup because I am selling her. My horse wants to never set foot in a Dressage arena again, so I chose a trainer that will give her a tuneup in what she likes and is good at and I will then sell her to someone who wants a good trail horse. For me to spend hours working with my horse and the trainer would be a waste of time and $$$ as I am not keeping her.
I can see and understand that, I can't train in specific disiplines and can only do basic tune ups and starting greenies. The Reason I am thinking of including this in the contract is because I see so many people say I took my horse to the trainer and watched him ride and my horse looked amazing but now I have him home and can't do a thing with them. I want my clients to be able to go home and do the same things I did with their horse on their own. I want to be able to watch them and teach them what to do and get the same or similar results. If they are doing something wrong when they are with me I can try to correct it. Word of mouth is the best advertising and If I send an owner home who doesn't know what they are doing they will end up bad mouthing me because they can't get their horse to do what I got them to do, it would be bad for business and possibly bad for a horse. If I can make an owner more educated and a horse more happy by educating the owner I am a satisfied person.

I have found that most horse problems are caused by human error and ignorance.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:32 PM
  #26
Trained
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Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
Wow what a rip! There are a few trainers here that do the same thing. One guy runs a big barn something 50 horses in training and the trainer is a successful working cow and reined cow competitor. I don't know much about that competitive world but he goes to Las Vegas and is in the top ranking. He charges about $1200 a month. All you have to do is go in the morning and you'll see what all these trainers are up to. At his barn there are 10 horses tied up and that is a big part of the program.
Thing is that tying a horse as part of the training is not a bad thing. They must know how to tie and stand tied for long periods of time. All mine learn this by the time they are weaned. All will stand tied quietly.

$1200 a month for a cow horse trainer be it reined cow horse or cutting is the norm. Keep in mind that they have to have a large number of cattle.

Also you need more then one horse at a time to work a horse correctly and normally several people working with you when working a cow horse.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:42 PM
  #27
Trained
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Originally Posted by horsplay    
I can see and understand that, I can't train in specific disiplines and can only do basic tune ups and starting greenies. The Reason I am thinking of including this in the contract is because I see so many people say I took my horse to the trainer and watched him ride and my horse looked amazing but now I have him home and can't do a thing with them. I want my clients to be able to go home and do the same things I did with their horse on their own. I want to be able to watch them and teach them what to do and get the same or similar results. If they are doing something wrong when they are with me I can try to correct it. Word of mouth is the best advertising and If I send an owner home who doesn't know what they are doing they will end up bad mouthing me because they can't get their horse to do what I got them to do, it would be bad for business and possibly bad for a horse. If I can make an owner more educated and a horse more happy by educating the owner I am a satisfied person.

I have found that most horse problems are caused by human error and ignorance.
I have no problem with this. I go and watch my trainer work my horses as often as I can when they are up there and he is about 4 hours from me. It does not matter if he has worked my horse already or not he will get them back out and work them again for me and then I will ride them too. There is no set schedule as to when what horse gets worked at what time. I find it is good to mix these things up. Horses also do not stay in the same stall either. What every stall is open and clean is the one they go back into.

I find that when you dig and get all the fact that people who say they did not get what they expected from a horse trainer you will find that they do not go and watch and ride their horses at the trainers.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:51 PM
  #28
Showing
Something else I also suggest doing, is to look at some of the horse this trainer's has worked with, see how they look under saddle and talk to the owners. I know I've saved myself some money and some possible problems by talking to some horse owners and who they've worked with, or stayed away from. That's how I came to finding the trainer I worked with and found her to be absolutely fantastic in starting young horses.
     
    02-22-2011, 12:58 PM
  #29
Weanling
I wouldn't want to pay someone $1200 a month to tie my horse up for hours. I think that a lot of people know how to teach their horse to tie. I think my point was that not a lot else was getting done.
     
    02-22-2011, 01:07 PM
  #30
Trained
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Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
I wouldn't want to pay someone $1200 a month to tie my horse up for hours. I think that a lot of people know how to teach their horse to tie. I think my point was that not a lot else was getting done.
Will your horse stand tied to a rail all day with all kinds of things going on around them. People riding and walking behind them horses chasing cows in the arena?

These trainers are not tying these horses and not doing anything more with them. If they are then I agree that is not a good trainer and I would not use them either. A lot of trainers will saddle several horses and then tie them and the horses will get worked through out the day. They may only be tied for a few hours and worked for an hour of that. They may be ridden by several different people though out that time. Some of that time they will be the one being worked and other times they will be the out rider horse or turn back horse. I have no problem with my horses being tied in the arena. I have gone to my trainers several times to find my horses tied in the arena. Some times have have already been worked and sometimes they are getting ready to be worked.

Also you would be surprised how may horses do not tie well. Look through the training section here and see how may people having problems with horses not tying.
     

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