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    01-23-2012, 04:57 PM
  #1
Weanling
how much to charge?

Howdy

So im really exited I resently got afferd a job appertunaty to train 5 horses
Long story short the man wife toke in some horses that were going to the meats and end up with % of them none are broke to ride... I havent gone to see them yet but will be soon hopefuly. They also have 4 kids that are to young to ride right now but they would like me to train theses horse on western pleasure (trail ride, sound and safe for the kids) ITs a big job and im going to see what I get myself into before I take it on. Im hoping if everything cause well thell need a coach for there kids as well. The thing is im not experience. Yes my horse in trained by me but were eventing and my coach helps me alot ovesly... I started my neighbords sanderbred last summer she doing very good and progressing and his other older horse I train in barrels and now she's retired. Also Im starting a 2 year old for my barn owner and help my coach with her ponies.

Just wondering for someyone, that doesnt have a "reputation" but would love to build one. What should I charge ?

Thank you :)
     
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    01-23-2012, 05:19 PM
  #2
Showing
If you aren't experienced in training, I wouldn't do it. Maybe when they are trained you could exercise them.. that's my opinion.
     
    01-23-2012, 06:01 PM
  #3
Super Moderator
The first question I would ask you....do you have very good health insurance? I'm not kidding here. There are real risks training feral horses and they are amplified if you have no experience. Injuries are common and you need to plan for them.

Until you do build a reputation, it is hard to prove that you are worthy of a paycheck. What I would do is make a deal that when the horses sell (they are for sale, right?) you get a percentage of the sale price.

If you decide to do this, start very slowly and build trust first. Do tons of ground work before even thinking of backing the horse. I wish you the best, but fear you may be biting off more than you can chew.
     
    01-23-2012, 09:20 PM
  #4
rob
Weanling
None of us started with reputations.we had to work our way up thru the trash and build them,but it took alot of horses,years,bumps and bruises,and experience to get good reputations.just ask yourself first if you have all that,because if you start messing horses up,a bad reputation travels faster than a good one.
     
    01-23-2012, 09:32 PM
  #5
Showing
I just wouldn't start with so many horses of someone else's when you've had no experience with it. Maybe your own and then when it turns out well, then you can start branching out. But I really feel like you might be in over your head.

If you were training your own horse, or ONE horse, I'd be singing a different tune. But since this is.. 5 untrained horses???

:/
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    01-23-2012, 09:36 PM
  #6
Yearling
Allison makes good points. Learning to train horses is a very trial-and-error process and in the past I (like many others) suckered myself into the notion that because I could watch other trainers (for example on DVD) and intellectually understand what I was seeing that I could do it too. What I found was that there are two types of understanding: intellectual and practical. Practical understanding, in other words the ability to put into practice what you've learned on different horses takes much longer to learn. Your timing, feel, and judgment don't develop overnight but rather evolve at a natural pace over time depending on how much you get into it.

If I could go back a couple years and do anything differently, the number one thing would be to not be in such a hurry to get this stuff down. I would only go as fast as I could stay relatively stress-free and refrain from putting myself into situations where I had to produce results quickly. One thing I've learned is that you won't be able to train like a pro until you've put in the time.

So long as you have all the time in the world though, I say more power to ya!
     
    01-24-2012, 08:19 PM
  #7
Weanling
You guys have really good points... I have my OFE so im insured anywhere and on any horse. No the horses arent for sale the owners are just hoping to get them train to be nice quiet trail horses for there kids... im just thinking of this as an expereience, if I don't take it on how many other oppertunaties will I get and how can I get more experience if I don't work with as many horses as I can? I will defently do alot of grown work before and build on trust certainly if there rescued horses.. imma go see what im getting myslef into first of course... I talked to my coach about it and she said I should go for it. So idk id love to hear more opinion, thanks for the ones already posted :)
     
    01-24-2012, 09:44 PM
  #8
Foal
DO you mean you are OEF certified? Training horses with zero experience doing so is trouble...and extremely dangerous...whether for show or trail riding. I would definitely reconsider "training" 5 horses...start small and work your way up. As someone has already said, you have to build a good reputation, start ruining horses by lack of experience and you will have a bad one in no time.
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    01-24-2012, 09:52 PM
  #9
Showing
Maybe you should suggest that they find a reputable trainer and ask if you can assist the trainer while he/she is working with the horses. That way, you can kill 2 birds with one stone...so to speak. You get to learn more about how to start a horse and the horses are given the best chance to get good training and not have a novice trainer making mistakes on them.

And, just so you know, that last statement wasn't a dig against you. I was a novice trainer once myself and I completely screwed up the first horse I trained on my own. Screwed him up to the point that nobody but me can successfully ride him. Thankfully, I was in a position to give him a forever home with me, but not all horses are that lucky. After him, I started training horses under the watchful eye and guiding hand of a veteran trainer and it's been much more fun and successful since then. Now, about 13 years later, I am successfully training on my own with my own reputation and my own customers.
     
    01-24-2012, 10:02 PM
  #10
rob
Weanling
And remember,you are training these horses for kids to ride later.can you live with that on your mind?
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