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post #1 of 3 Old 06-17-2011, 09:12 AM Thread Starter
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How to re-train the trained horse & accquire Manners?

Hi all, I am looking for some advise to help me with my new Mare.
I bought Maddy Dec 2010, she had only been ridden half a dozen times in 3yrs, due to owners schooling taking more time then she could give Maddy. Before the large spell Maddy had been graded in junior eventing & Dressage at C level, she was also used for pony club & had done endurance trails as well. She is an 8year old mare.
The first ride I had on Maddy I could see her potential, she did not buck (she pig rooted a little, was her only complaint).
Maddy was/is very reponsive to leg pressure & she can do a flying change with the slightest command. At this time I noticed that she was fairly "deaf" to whoa & mouth pressure even when I sat heavier in the saddle, I thought that this was mainly due to her needing her teeth seen too (which she badly needed).

1) Maddy has on occassions displayed aggressive behaviour in the paddock, she has become Jealous of my kids...she has once bared her teeth, pinned her ears & went my two year old drawing blood from her forehead!!! Maddy before this incident was happy to be patted by her, she would even put her head down for her...which she also did on this occassion, she didn't even indicate in her body language a change until she did it, it was that quick!
2) Maddy has no respect for my space, she deliberately tries to walk over the top of me, she does not care if I wave the lead rope or shove her away or even if I tap her on the sholder or neck. (I am working on her ground manners but would like to know how others would address this).
3) Maddy is still "hard" mouthed even after having her teeth addressed & I am a light handed rider...can a horse with a "hard/dead" mouth once again become soft & supple? I don't want to feel like I have to fight her or constantly check her back. I'm looking into the Peewee bit & from all reports I am thinking that it may help.
4) I can not get Maddy to back up! I give all the indicators sit heavy, say back up, apply pressure when that doesn't work more pressure but everytime i've applyed all the indicators/back up commands she over collects dropping her head almost to her chest, I can't do anything from this...I release & ask again, I get the same every time (I have to release pressure or she will go upwards). The only time I get response is if I raise my hands above my head & apply pressure, I get a half step back & usually to one side or the other...I have no idea how to combat this...suggestions please!!!
Appart from the above issues Maddy is coming along...slowly but these issues must be addressed!
I'm only doing slow work with her, exagerating everything like I would a young horse but after 13years out of the saddle myself I too am green & would like to learn from others, so that I can help Maddy reach the potential I see in her...I don't really know any horsey people who I can gain advise from.

I look forward to learning from any comments or suggestions you may have.

Happy horsing until then.

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post #2 of 3 Old 06-17-2011, 09:52 AM
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Yikes, sounds like you need to start from ground zero! I have found the Clinton Anderson's methods are good for disrepectful horses. He has a lot of DVDs but (like everyone else) they're expensive. There is a website that rents horse DVDs, it works like netflix and is called They have a lot of trainers videos and other stuff available for a monthly fee. Keep 'em as long as you want. It's worth it to me, you might look into it. Also, I would hire a trainer since she is being so aggressive. Please give updates and good luck.
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Hi gig..., l'm trying to fall back on things l knew when l rode everyday & worked with horses of all ages & start from the begining with Maddy, but she's been baby'd & spoilt & has learnt bad habbits.
l should mention that l am always with my girls (2 & 10yrs) when going near any horse...Maddy has always liked my little one, has always put her head down for a quick pat, before walking away, on that frightening occasion, she did the same as always but her parting thank you gift was a head wound for my little one...the whole time l was holding her hand & watching for any of the naughty behaviour displays, l've noticed since bringing Maddy home.
Maddy is very curious & l like that l can introduce her to things, l'm firm but fair with her, but she is somewhat arrogant...she only sometimes engages & connects with me, on these days she's wonderful, she works really well & is rewarded for the connection. On other days she is a cow & l get the arrogant disrespectful Maddy.
I have considered sending her to a trainer, the down side of that is that l don't get to learn & interact...l would like to learn what cues work with her.
Thank you for the web info...My husband's late dad had some parelli videos & books so we're going to grab them this l progress l will keep you posted.
Happy horsing.
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