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    07-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Green Broke
They are not human, they do not have the ability to "reason," and they will not know why you have tied them to a post. They don't know what "time out" is either. They do seem to eventually grasp "cause and effect."

For example
I bite owner - I get smacked in the shoulder and yelled at
I kick owner - I get a smack and yelled at
I nuzzle and am nice - I am loved back

Your "effect" must be immediate. They have a SHORT attention span. Think a 2 year old human.... things only stick for about 5 minutes the first 10 to 20 times so you may have to remind them, but they eventually "get it."
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    07-08-2012, 06:47 PM
You shouldn't punish a horse for a bad ride. That's like being punished for having a bad day at school, or being in a bad mood for a little while. It's natural to have a bad ride sometimes. Maintain control but do not punish your horse for having a bad ride. Try to have a better ride next time if you have this situation.
Happy riding!
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    07-08-2012, 08:47 PM
Others have basically said it already, but I want to emphasise to try to get to the bottom of *why* the horse is being 'bad' and working to change the motivation for the behaviour.

Also want to point out to people that the 'you have 3-5 seconds' business is a bit of a misunderstanding. It comes from research on dogs. The deal is, animals aren't very good at abstract ideas, including those such as effects that happen after the cause. They learn best by *instant* association. Research has shown though, that some dogs can link cause & effect up to 3-5 seconds later. Research on horses however suggests that they can only link abstracted cause & effect if it's within about 2 seconds max.
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    07-08-2012, 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by goneriding    
Sometimes the rider can cause unwanted behavior.
so agree or many times the choice of the rider..ex: deciding to ride just before normal feeding bet he knows what time it is or riding when it is very windy or very hot..they are not robots..they can react neg to situations and its not "bad" behavior
..what is a bad ride anyway? It is a very vague term
    07-08-2012, 10:54 PM
Green Broke
One thing, is don't get overhorsed, don't think because you can ride old Dobbin, that you can ride Widowmaker as easily.

PAY ATTENTION when you are riding. You wouldn't let your attention wander when you are on the Interstate, so don't do it on a horse.

Learn what is going on with your horse before it does something. Watch its ears. One forward and the other back? Horse is contemplating something, and is checking out to see if you are watching. Like a kid stealing cookies.

Learn to feel with the seat of your pants what the horse is thinking. Horse is getting light up under you? What has it noticed? Horse doesn't feel "all there" in its mind? Why?

Look ahead on the trail, if your horse is a drifter, generally because you aren't riding with purpose? Then watch for it to drift near a tree, so that you have to shift over to avoid being scraped off.

Instead of thinking about punishing your horse? Think about ways to become the best horseperson you can be, in every way.

That way, when something begins to happen? You will know how to deal with, and fix it then.
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    07-08-2012, 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by Imagine That    
My friend used to say if they repeated naughty behaviour when you are riding them, you should keep their tack on (Bridle,saddle,e.c.t) and tie them to a "Thinking Post" for half an hour or so, and that would be like a "Time Out".
I'm not really sure about this, what do you guys think. Will a horse understand why they are there?

Thanx guys
Your friend doesn't understand how horses think.

If you're having a bad ride, the end of the ride is way too late to do anything. You discipline things like a buck or rear IMMEDIATELY. You have less than a minute to correct something before your horse's brain has moved on to something else. They do not feel bad that you had a bad ride 20 minutes ago or yesterday. They don't feel like they owe you one because hey were bad last time. Tying a horse to a wall with its tack on teaches it nothing. The horse does not know why it's there and will not act any differently for it.

Always try to end on a good note even if the overall ride was bad.
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    07-09-2012, 12:02 PM
Keeping their tack on and using a thinking post wont help.
Normally a horses bad beaviour can be down to fear or pain- they are not nasty animals by nature and if given the right treatment and understand humans/riders are there to help and work WITH the horse then you shouldnt have a problem :) unless ofc they spook at silly things while riding but you shouldnt punish that:)

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