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    11-05-2012, 02:37 PM
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Foal
How should I train a 7 month old colt?

I have a 7 month old colt. He was never touched until we got him out of the field away from his mother. He will let me brush him and halter him but that's about all, if I walk through the feild he will charge me and kick and rear at me. Also he will not lead he will lead for like a min or two till he decides he has had enough and will just bolt away and start trying to kick me or anything to get away.Also when I go to pick up his feet he will just try and lay down on me. Please help me with your opinions. He is really sweet and gentle when he wants to be. Thanks for you help!
     
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    11-05-2012, 02:48 PM
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When you lead him, how are leading him? Do you have a rope around his woohoo or are you just tugging on it. And when he tries to run away, rear and does what he can manage to get away, what do you do? Do you hold on or let him go? If you let go, you're teaching him that the only way for him to get away with it, is to struggle because he knows you can't handle it and take up with his crap.

The run at you and rearing at you part is highly dangerous though, make sure you have someone else with you when going there just incase because you could get hurt no matter how small he is.

It sounds like he thinks that you are just a person that enters his life thinking you want to do all of these things so fast and he may be getting frusterated with them. It takes time to train a colt. I haven't taken care of a colt myself but I have been around loads of barns that would have colts and I would get to watch them train their colts, and its just a thrill and dangerous thing to watch, when the poor baby doesn't know what your doing to them or they're not sure what you're going to do with them because you're taking hi m away from his happy place. So NEVER let go of the lead, hold on with all your might, but it is also dangerous to do this sort of thing by yourself, unless you really knew what you were doing, so you could find a friend, family member or a trainer to help :)
     
    11-05-2012, 03:42 PM
  #3
Foal
I have been just walking with him he will follow me and I have never had to pull or yank on him to follow me. Its like he just gets frustrated and just yanks away from me he has only pulled away once from me. I have never tried the rope around him because he bolts so much I don't know if it would help me keep him under control or not.
What should I do about him in the field? Should I carry a whip with me? I don't want to hurt him or scare him.I read on another forum that will work to get him to stop rearing, kicking and charging me. But I want him to still come up to me in the field and enjoy being with me .
Also I try not to confuse him I usually only work on one thing at a time. But Im worried if I don't get him under control he will end up hurting me or him self and I will never get him under control when he is older. I have been around young horses but not this young and they all were already broke to lead and had some ground manners. Thanks for the helping me..... I have been getting confused how to go with him now.
     
    11-05-2012, 03:52 PM
  #4
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Dakota0313    
What should I do about him in the field? Should I carry a whip with me? I don't want to hurt him or scare him.I read on another forum that will work to get him to stop rearing, kicking and charging me. But I want him to still come up to me in the field and enjoy being with me .
Worrying that he won't want to come up to you if you discipline him is going to get you or someone else hurt in the future. If you do not know how to discipline him, please get a trainer. Otherwise, get a long lunge whip after his butt! That is completely unacceptable and needs to be nipped in the bud yesterday. If you are not confident, then please get a trainer.
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    11-05-2012, 04:33 PM
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Do you have a rope around his woohoo or are you just tugging on it.
Rope around his woohoo?
     
    11-05-2012, 04:47 PM
  #6
Foal
Its when you put the rope around his back end to help him move with you..... I think
     
    11-05-2012, 05:01 PM
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Ohhhhh okies. I was definitely confused over the woohoo term. My mind did not interpret that well.

To contribute, I agree with aldebono on this. You need to nip this behavior in the bud quick like. I'd come down on him so hard he'd think Zues just paid him a visit and he was likely going to die that very second. HOWEVER it seems you are new to this and seeking help so I would definitely get yourself a trainer to help you get him started at least.
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    11-05-2012, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BBBCrone    
Rope around his woohoo?
lol woohoo is for his bum, if you clip the clip to his halter and rap the end around his woohoo and grab the rope and pull, WHILE encouraging him to move forward, it just tells him that that is how it is done and that is how he must walk on a lead line. :)
     
    11-05-2012, 07:17 PM
  #9
Foal
I understand and Thank you all for all the help! I have been around horses since I was a child but never this young and need an opinion on how to train him with these problems. Also how do I stop him from trying to lay down on me when I am working with his feet.
     
    11-05-2012, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dakota0313    
I understand and Thank you all for all the help! I have been around horses since I was a child but never this young and need an opinion on how to train him with these problems. Also how do I stop him from trying to lay down on me when I am working with his feet.
Prepare yourself this is going to be long but I want to help you address everything and help you bond with your colt while maintaining his respectfulness towards you. I put a lot of thought into this for you though original.y I didn't mean for it to get this long . But don't try to teach him all this stuff at once take it slow. Let me know if I need to clarify anything and you can PM me anytime. A few questions: How is he laying down and how long are you holding his foot up? When you pick up his feet does he start out by leaning on you before he lays down? If he is leaning on you or you feel he is about to lay down hold on to his foot and use your body and weight to push his body over a few steps . It will make him quit wanting to do that cause he will feel unbalanced. Then maybe hold the foot up for a few seconds after that if he stands straight then praise him and put the foot down. But I'd like you not have to get to that point. When you pick his feet up maybe pick it up low maybe 2 inches off the ground if he sits still for about 5 seconds praise and rub him then put the foot down if he moves away move with him don't let go of his foot if you can help it. Maybe the next day raise it higher keep it short time wise again. Next day maybe raise it normal height but keeping the time short. If he is doing that good then you can increase the amount of time you have it up, just do it slowly and give him lots of love when he does it right.

Now for his lack of respect that needs to be nipped in the bud immediately. Get either a pretty long lead rope or a lunge line when you do this might wear gloves to protect your hands. If he rears while your leading get at an angle ( 45 degrees which is midway between the head and the shoulder pull him off balance. Practice leading in a open area sometimes when you pull they fall over but that's ok just hold on to him but let the rope slide some if needed depending on the way if he falls you may walk with the line while supporting his head it will soften his fall. Every colt I've had that has chosen to fall instead of go with the pressure never rears again but letting a colt fall is usually done in experienced hands. If he bolts when you lead him plant your feet and pull his head around and make him face you he may try to go backwards after he faces you just walk with him till he stops. Then ask him to walk forward again walk him a few feet then rub and praise. Every time he turns away from you in the slightest bit turn him and make him face you then ask him to go forward. If he balks pull at a 45 degree angle get I'm to take a few steps then praise. End your leading sessions if he follows your without problems for like a minute or so love him and end it there.
Now you need to take a lunge whip with you in the pasture for a bit if he charges at you go towards him (invade his space instead of him invading yours) and whack him if he is close to you and make him back off maybe add a voice command like get back. If he is at a distance swish the whip at him up and down add voice command. Don't worry about him hating you horses don't think in those terms. If he did that to a dominant horse in a herd he would of gotten chased, bitten, kicked at or all of the above. Eventually you can change the whip to a hand gesture with voice. You don't want to get hurt and he will hurt you. Something I teach my colts is to join up. Sometimes when I go into the pasture and they are getting too much in my space I'll push them away with my body by waving extending an arm waving my fore up and down (mimics whip or the way a horse tosses its head upward) then voice cue, basically I want them to back away a few feet. Colt should back away but turn and face you. Then I turn my body at an angle point my shoulder at his face (shoulders should be squared) and extend my arm outward and slightly lowered and I don't look at them directly. When he walks up and puts his nose to my hand I'll rub him on the front of his face turn around shoulders squared and walk. You just have one colt following you so slightly angle your shoulder towards him he should follow you. This may take some practice to get the language right so don't get discouraged. Once you get it though you will achieve a mental halter on him. This is why I can always catch my horses even when they don't want to be caught.
But learn from my experience just so you see how quick they can injure you. My new colt Jackpot used to crowd me during feeding time and one day when I wasn't paying attention to him he quickly snuck up behind be and bit me hard on the forearm which weeks later still hurts cause the bone is bruised or has a small fracture. So save yourself the injury I didn't make time to teach him to respect my space so it's my own fault.So the lunge whip accompanied me after that till he learned to stay away now he waits with jet to get his food. You must make him obey your space all the time.
Almost everyday I halter my babies somedays I spend just brushing them for about 10 minutes then let them go. But I also mix it up with short 20-30 minute training sessions a couple times a week. I'll take them out brush them, then maybe have them practicing backing up, yielding hind quarters to my touch, pick up their feet, or spend a day desensitizing to whip, sacks, saddle pads, random stuff, etc. Teaching these things will help you to gain his respect as well.
What you need to remember is spend several days working on one thing at a time but don't work him everyday some days just take him out and love him for a bit. They didn't learn these things over night colt training should be slow and patient.
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