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    01-01-2011, 11:06 PM
  #1
Foal
Smile How to slow the lope and ride with lose reins??

I have tried slowing down the lope but I need more help..
Are draw reins ok to use?? Do they tend to add problems??
Also I need more ideas on how to make my horse stop droping his inside shoulder when we are walk,troting, and loping in a circle??
HELP!!
     
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    01-01-2011, 11:50 PM
  #2
Super Moderator
Leanne,

I am not a friend of draw reins, so I wont address that idea.

Your horse dropping his inside shoulder on circles is either that he is unbalanced or is being evasive to work. In either case, I would pick up the inside rein and bend him TOWARD the inside of the circle and put your inside leg on and push him out. Even if he steps outward, off the circle it is ok. Just so he bend off the inside rein.
Are you riding in a curb , snaffle, direct or neck reining.?
If you are neck reining in a curb, it will be harder to effect only the inside rein and in which case you would focus more on using your inside leg. Be sure that YOU are not leaning into the circle when your horse does this. If you are leaning into the circle, your horse has no choice but to lean in also to stay under you. SO, when you apply your inside leg to push him, also take your outside leg off of him a little and really think of putting weight down into your OUTSIDE stirrup. You are inviting him to move into the weight and open area of the outside area. When he does step over and come off the inside shoulder give him a release on the rein and let him go forward, even if it's not on the circle. He did what you asked, right? Then go back into the circle again and see if you will need to do this all over again or not.

As for slowing the lope, you will need to settle your body down more, lean back a tad and breather out, think, "slow, slow, slow" with each outward breathe. REally think SLOW an heavy and your horse will slow.
If you need to use rein to slow him, take up the rein as tight as necessary but the instant he slows, even if it's not asmuch as you really want, release the pressure. Use lots of little "brakes" and realeasese over and over again, instead of holding (riding the brakes)
     
    01-01-2011, 11:56 PM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
Leanne,

I am not a friend of draw reins, so I wont address that idea.

Your horse dropping his inside shoulder on circles is either that he is unbalanced or is being evasive to work. In either case, I would pick up the inside rein and bend him TOWARD the inside of the circle and put your inside leg on and push him out. Even if he steps outward, off the circle it is ok. Just so he bend off the inside rein.
Are you riding in a curb , snaffle, direct or neck reining.?
If you are neck reining in a curb, it will be harder to effect only the inside rein and in which case you would focus more on using your inside leg. Be sure that YOU are not leaning into the circle when your horse does this. If you are leaning into the circle, your horse has no choice but to lean in also to stay under you. SO, when you apply your inside leg to push him, also take your outside leg off of him a little and really think of putting weight down into your OUTSIDE stirrup. You are inviting him to move into the weight and open area of the outside area. When he does step over and come off the inside shoulder give him a release on the rein and let him go forward, even if it's not on the circle. He did what you asked, right? Then go back into the circle again and see if you will need to do this all over again or not.

As for slowing the lope, you will need to settle your body down more, lean back a tad and breather out, think, "slow, slow, slow" with each outward breathe. REally think SLOW an heavy and your horse will slow.
If you need to use rein to slow him, take up the rein as tight as necessary but the instant he slows, even if it's not asmuch as you really want, release the pressure. Use lots of little "brakes" and realeasese over and over again, instead of holding (riding the brakes)
I am riding in a twisted snafle for now and using direct rein. I have been showing in western pleasure since I was 9 years old.
My horse is 8 and many people still consider him green I on the other hand know him and I know what he can do. I think he is a little bit past green broke.. he knows alot I just really need help with the shoulder droping and the slowing the lope :)
Thank you for your advise :)
     
    01-02-2011, 12:09 AM
  #4
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Originally Posted by leanneandted    
I am riding in a twisted snafle for now and using direct rein. I have been showing in western pleasure since I was 9 years old.
My horse is 8 and many people still consider him green I on the other hand know him and I know what he can do. I think he is a little bit past green broke.. he knows alot I just really need help with the shoulder droping and the slowing the lope :)
Thank you for your advise :)

He obviously doesn't know a lot since you are having problems.

Using a bit that most would consider harsh and somewhat overkill is not the way to go, nor is adding gadgets like draw reins. People that use equipment like this are simply putting a bandage over a problem but not solving the problem.

The previous poster gave you good advice and the inside shoulder dropping means the horse is crooked and unbalanced.

I would suggest you re read the previous post and at least try what is suggested before you condemn it.
     
    01-02-2011, 12:16 AM
  #5
Foal
I do not think a twisted snafle is a over kill harsh bit.. many people use this bit in the WP world for training..
And just bc I am having this problem with the shouldre droping and the lope does not mean he is a green horse just saying..
And I did not condemn the first reply... I told her thanks in case you didnt read that part..
And I havent added draw reins yet... I was getting more advise before I did that..
     
    01-02-2011, 12:41 AM
  #6
Showing
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Originally Posted by leanneandted    
and just bc I am having this problem with the shouldre droping and the lope does not mean he is a green horse just saying..
Umm, yes, it pretty much does. A slow, controlled lope and dropping the inside shoulder are problems that should have been fixed a long time ago. As this horse is already 8, I would suggest having a trainer help you out.
     
    01-02-2011, 12:24 PM
  #7
Super Moderator
The problems you are having tell me that you are riding predominantly with your hands and not using enough body and leg aids to properly 'collect' your horse. He is far too green to be worried about 'self carriage' when you have not achieved proper carriage with contact.

I would guess that you are trying to 'pull' him into proper carriage and a slower pace rather than 'push' him there. True collection, like a winning WP horse needs, requires that you 'drive' his hind end forward while keeping his shoulders up.

There are two ways to get from point A to point B more slowly: You can take long steps with a slower cadence or rhythm (resulting in a sloppy, slow stride that puts a horse on his front end); or you can teach a horse to shorten its stride, shift its weight back toward its hind quarters and maintain a faster cadence. The horse will actually travel slower, will keep its shoulders up, look better, be a LOT smoother to ride and place a whole lot higher.

Teaching a rider to achieve proper collection in a few internet paragraphs is all but impossible. But, I can tell you that draw reins will only further put this horse on his front end. Is your horse also 'hopping' into a lope. This also is a big problem with riders that are not use=ing leg aids correctly.

I think you first need to learn how to use your legs to achieve proper carriage WITH contact. You need to learn to use your inside leg to 'drive' his ribs and shoulders out. You need to learn to use your outside leg to bring his hind quarters into the center of your circle. You need to learn how to get your horse's butt up underneath him. You need to do a LOT of transitions. A lot of stopping and backing. You need to achieve 'lightness' and responsiveness and you will be headed a long way toward true collection.

If you are where you can do it, get some lessons from a reining trainer. They achieve the epitome of true collection and self carriage. They have better control of each of a horse's five body parts and do it with more 'lightness' than any other horseman.

And, above all, you DO NOT make a winning WP horse by practicing WP class routines. You make one by getting perfect body control and correctness. Then, you try to get a horse to hold all of it together on a loose rein for the duration of a class.
     
    01-02-2011, 01:15 PM
  #8
Green Broke
To slow the lope, take your horse out on a dirt road and lope for several miles. Do this several times. Your horse will learn to conserve its energy by slowing down the lope. If he drops out of the lope, immediately make him pick it back up. Some would also call this teaching him cruise control, making him responsible for keeping his speed consistent, and can be done at the trot too.
     
    01-02-2011, 03:45 PM
  #9
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by equiniphile    
Umm, yes, it pretty much does. A slow, controlled lope and dropping the inside shoulder are problems that should have been fixed a long time ago. As this horse is already 8, I would suggest having a trainer help you out.
I agree with equiniphile. A horse who is broke would not do that.
     
    01-02-2011, 03:59 PM
  #10
Foal
All of you who say my horse is still green I strongly disagree with you.. But all of you who are giving me advise I want to thank you :)
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