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post #1 of 10 Old 08-18-2011, 07:53 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy How to solve explosive behaviour when being backed?

Hi, this is my very first time on a forum so please be gentle!
I am in the process of breaking in my young horse, she was super for all the prelim stuff like mouthing, long reining and lungeing - no drama's at all. Now that she is being backed she is continually ditching me with spectacular effect. Stood in the yard is not a problem, in the area outside she is ok (ish) when stood still; as soon as she moves forward she explodes. It is an aggressive action rather than exuberance or fear. Can someone please advise on the next cause of action, before the ambulance is on stand-by!
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post #2 of 10 Old 08-18-2011, 08:05 AM
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Lol. I can't picture what she is doing, could you be a little more specific in what she is doing? Moves forward being lead? Moves forward being tied?
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When dealing with he on the ground she is a filmstar, nothing goes wrong. When sitting on her the problems begin. When stood still she is ok, when asked/allowed to move forward she just explodes. Rearing, bucking and striking out at my poor glamorous assistant who is at her head trying to lead her with me sat on her (not for very long though). She will not stop until she gets me off. I have had her back and teeth checked - full bill of health. I am begining to think she is the devil pony. I bred her so I know all her history etc. HELP
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post #4 of 10 Old 08-18-2011, 08:24 AM
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How old is she?
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two, she was very bored in the field so i started with her to give her something to do. My plan was to get her started and then turn her away to mature and develop.
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post #6 of 10 Old 08-18-2011, 08:48 AM
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I think she's too young. That's my opinion. Your riding her at two? Her mind isn't fully developed yet. How much ground driving and training have you done before getting on her back? I'd be real careful going to fast with her training because things like this do develop. I think before you go forward with this issue you need to back up and lunge her more tacked up. Can or have you tried to ground drive her tacked up? It sounds like she isn't used to the weight and gets confused and a bit scared and her reaction is to get whatever is scaring her off or away from her.

I would definitely go back to lunging in the round pen. When you get her moving forward without trouble on the ground, have your assistant lunge with you on her back. Now, don't be too concerned with which way she goes or steering her. Try to let her move where she wants as long as she is moving forward. Go slow, but don't continue to ride her until you go back to the round pen.

My filly is two and a half. I have only started to just sit on her. I don't make her move but let her do it on her own. If she stops its because she's just not to sure about that extra weight up there.

As far as she's bored, hand walk her. Take her around the property and let her see different things. I honestly think she needs another year to mature psychologically and physically but that's my opinion. Have you had a vet out to check if her knees are closed?
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Have you done all your groundwork with her packing a saddle? Lunging, asking her to move forward, back, side to side? Not just once or twice but for 5 or 6 days? Walk her down the road and see how she reacts. If she does, get her feet busy, move her hip sideways. Make her move her butt in circles until she wants to stand still, then proceed to walk her away. By moving the hip sideways and keeping it moving it means one of her hind legs is either under her belly or in the air. This removes the power in her hindquarters that enables her to buck or rear. Think of a table with only 3 legs.
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I have a very similar problem with my 7 yo, TB mare. She is not trying to get me off though and she has been broken to saddle although not ridden for years. She is prone to shooting forward at great speed and I am prone to loosing my seat. On the ground she is very willing but a bit of a scardey cat with the tendency to run full speed ahead :)

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IMO she's not too young because you're not actually riding her. Sitting on her and asking for a few steps isn't riding and doesn't hurt her.
But, have you considered NOT going forward? If she has a plan when she steps out, change the plan. If you teach her to Curbside and practice it from a safe place, you can actually practice moving forward and backward without the danger.
If I have a forward horse that's not nice about it, we're going backward or turning. If I have a humpy, backward horse, forward it how I want to go for the training.
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The first thing I would do is quit trying to get someone to lead her. They are just likely to get in the way and be hurt. Then I would make sure that she can follow her nose around both directions. By this I mean take a long rein attached to her bit and while standing on the right side flip the rein over her head and down her body untill it falls off her rump. Then pull the rein until she yields and turns in a small circle. Keep doing this until she turns with very little pressure. Of course repeat it on both sides.

The other thing you should do is bend her head around when you get on and keep it bent until she has taken a few steps and is relaxed then bend it the other way. I bend the head and make the horse yield its hindquarters both directions before I ever let them straighten out. If the horse feels pretty explosive then I won't let them straighten all the way out until the hump goes out of thier back. As long as you have the head turned they can't buck. A horse must be straight from nose to tail to get enough leverage to buck so if you keep that bend your horse may have time to decide that it's not such a scary thing. If he wants to buck anyway pull his head around and kick the hindquarters over. This will result in several rather fast, tight circles but you won't hit the ground. Just stay with it until the feet stop moving then bend the other way.

You may also want to find a professional to ride her the first few times. It may cost you a bit but it's a lot less painful and expensive than an ambulance ride!
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