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    03-29-2011, 09:41 AM
  #21
Foal
I agree. Put a bit in that horses mouth! Teach him to give to it. You want him to be soft and supple in it. Flex, flex flex, and practice one rein stops(aka emergency break) with a horse that big you'll need to make him think he can't run off with you. That's what the flexing and one rein stops are for. The more soft and supple he is in his mouth and neck the more control you will have. Also see how his ground work is. Will he move his shoulders without pushing/leaning on you. Shoulder control is a great thing. Oh one more thing. When you advance with him enough to take him out to a field make sure it has a SAFE fence and a gate that way if he attempts to run off he can't completely leave.
     
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    03-29-2011, 09:44 AM
  #22
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
I think what I would have done was whip him on the arse and make him run as absolutely fast as he could. Being half draft and half quarterhorse he wouldn't have made it very far. If the horse could run back to the barn as fast as he could from 3 miles away he would truely be a specimen. The other thing I would do is wad up that sidepull and through it in the garbage. Now that he has ran off in it he won't respect it at all. I would use a regular o-ring snaffle. Not a French link or rubber covered super wonder bit. I would want to make sure that if he ran off again I could not only get his attention but make it as uncomfortable as possible.
Yep. He wants to run - make him.

At this point with your injury - put him in a large outdoor arena. Lope, lope, lope. When he wants to stop - lope some more.
     
    03-29-2011, 09:29 PM
  #23
Trained
Here is a video that will help with the pulley rein.


AlexS -- In a situation like this, your horse is risking your life and it's own, I would not worry about being too harsh. The harshness factor came up in practicing, not in an emergency situation.
     
    03-29-2011, 09:49 PM
  #24
Trained
Good video. Thanks for posting that NM. Glad she mentions that it's hard on the horse at the end and to take that into consideration while practicing. The only thing she didn't mention was that the pulley rein is not just a one pull action. Normally it takes a few rhythmic pulls to get the horse stopped. She made it look like you just pull back once and you're done.

I'm a little touchy on the pulley rein since Practical Horseman recently had an article about it suggesting it was a good tool for riding a XC course. I was very disappointed to see it being used by the rider in place of applying half halts to keep the horse in good rhythm, like cranking on the horse's mouth was a shortcut to good training. My blood pressure still rises when I think about it.

OP, by all means, if it's you, a bolting horse and only a cliff or highway in your path, yank away. It'll probably be the only time you ever use it. Most horses probably would never think of bolting ever again after having their mouth cranked on in that manner.
     
    03-30-2011, 07:46 AM
  #25
Foal
Wow that's a good video. Thanks for posting. I've only heard of a pulley rein never seen it done or used it. I think i'll remember that. I worked a barrel horse a while back that I could've used that on. Come to find out she wasnt sound,but bucking at full speed wasnt the best way to find that out.lol. I did manage to stop her but we went about 100yds before I got it done.If I tried to bring her head around (the emergency stop I was taught) she just pushed right through the turn and went faster. I figure that was becuase that what she was taught as a barrel horse. Anywho. Thanks again for the video
     
    03-30-2011, 05:33 PM
  #26
Trained
What many people forget is that a One Rein Stop has to be taught to a horse and practiced for there to be any chance of it working. A horse can run just about as fast with its head cranked around as it can with it straight it just can't see very well. The way people get hurt in runaways is by falling off when the horse gets to a fence and turns suddenly or when the horse falls down or crashes into something. I have ridden horses that can flat out RUN and as long as they stayed standing and I stayed on I was perfectly safe. If I get a horse that likes to run off I want fairly easy terrain preferebly uphill and no fences in front of me for at least a half mile. Very few horses are fit enough to run more than a quarter mile full out without running out of steam. I would bet most draft crosses wouldn't make it 500 yards if they were really giving it thier all.
     
    03-30-2011, 05:36 PM
  #27
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
What many people forget is that a One Rein Stop has to be taught to a horse and practiced for there to be any chance of it working. A horse can run just about as fast with its head cranked around as it can with it straight it just can't see very well.

Geez Kevin. We're talking pulley rein on this thread. Please don't confuse her with the one rein stop. Two very different manuevers.
     
    03-30-2011, 07:36 PM
  #28
Trained
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Geez Kevin. We're talking pulley rein on this thread. Please don't confuse her with the one rein stop. Two very different manuevers.

Others have suggested teaching the one rein stop as well, so there is not confusion here...there are indeed two different methods being discussed in this thread.

And I agree with Kevin; regardless of which method the OP chooses, it has to be 'taught' in order to work (I would go with ORS myself, not the pulley...)
     
    03-30-2011, 07:44 PM
  #29
Trained
I just get worried when I see to two methods being used interchangeably. One rein stop and pulley rein are for very different circumstances. One is for a horse who has not yet gotten into full gear involves substantial bend while the other is for a bolt in progress and keeps the horse straight while being applied. Using the wrong one can result in disaster. I just hope people are clear that they are not both for the same purpose.
     
    03-30-2011, 08:17 PM
  #30
Trained
A ORS can be used to stop a buck or bolt before it even happens, so not necessarily for 'different circumstances'. I don't know how many times an effective ORS has saved my butt on a green horse, simply because he understands what grabbing up that one rein means, even when he is in 'mid flight mode'.

I have used ORS for a bolt in progress as well, too, but obviously you don't grab the rein right to the hip immediately; you MUST slow the horse down some by getting him into a circle first, then get him to use the ORS once he is slowed some; again, I have used it for the bolt too, but it has to be used differently than when you are executing in a controlled environment where the horse is calm and for the most part collected in his gaits. HOWEVER...if it is life or death we are talking about, as in this thread (where the horse is crossing roads in his flight), I would rather execute the ORS as quickly as I could, than to have the horse continue running and kill us both.

IF I am in an area where it is safe to make the horse run...then by all means, I will make him run, and make him wish he'd never taken off in the first place; but this is not always possible, so you HAVE to have a 'stop' procedure you can rely on as well.
     

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