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post #1 of 27 Old 01-10-2010, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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How to Teach Bentley to lie down

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As some of you know, I have had some major orthopedic, reconstructive work done over the last 3 years which has kept me out of the saddle. Tho I still have 1 more(and hopefully final) surgery to go in 2 weeks, I have been wondering if teaching Bentley to lie down for me for mounting be something that would not be something nice for him to know during more difficult mounts(mainly when getting on bareback than anything).

searching for instructional videos as well.

Up until this point, I have never had problems mounting nor am I expecting any in the future(again assuming this last surgery will correct the last few issues). I do think however, that simply because of my injury history and my spending so much time with him, than I could teach him this.

I've just started to do some research online trying to see what the best ways are. I'm once again asking for help and suggestions as to which way might be the best way to teach him this.

Member videos welcome!
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Do we have any takers on this?

I am finding a lot of information online but a lot of those notes or videos seem to more force the horse into submission rather than working with them when doing it. I'm sure there has to be another way.

Hoping someone has taught their horse this?
Thanks again.
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I don't see a problem with it. I would hang on when he gets up though! Sometimes they lunge really hard. Also, I wouldn't put your feet in the stirrups until he was up either, in case something happened. I can't really see it putting much stress on his back. He'd just have to get used to the added weight of the saddle and rider when he got up. That would take a little time.

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I don't see a problem with it. I would hang on when he gets up though! Sometimes they lunge really hard. Also, I wouldn't put your feet in the stirrups until he was up either, in case something happened. I can't really see it putting much stress on his back. He'd just have to get used to the added weight of the saddle and rider when he got up. That would take a little time.
Being a problem doing it isn't the a question that I was asking.

I'm trying to find if anyone knows of someone or has taught a horse to do it and HOW they did it
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Being a problem doing it isn't the a question that I was asking.

I'm trying to find if anyone knows of someone or has taught a horse to do it and HOW they did it

OH! My bad. Sorry. I guess I didn't read the whole thing. Well, I don't know how to teach it, sorry. One of my friends teaches them to lay down, but I don't know how. I think she teaches it from the bow...put that puts them on their sides. Oh well. Sorry I can't help, and sorry I misunderstood your first post!! Oops

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Yup that's how I'd do it first. Teach them to bow and kinda rock them over to their side. Don't force them just more nudgingly suggest it ya know? :)
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I don't have a video, but I would begin with teaching him to bow.

That one is easy. Pick up one leg, and put a treat at his knee, then pull the treat back, to get him to bend down like that.. once his is comfy with being down, and staying at the bow (soon you won't need to hold his foot) but then you can test him back more.

Then, don't push them over, but simply pull their withers toward you.

Another way is the endorphin tap. It does not hurt the horse, but you may want someone to guide the horse trough it the first three times, then he will drop more quickly, and soon you can just stand at his side, and pull one rein back, then he will fall, and you can mount.

You can go to youtube.com on how to properly do the endorphin tap, as I have only done it once, and don't want to risk any safety.
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OH! My bad. Sorry. I guess I didn't read the whole thing. Well, I don't know how to teach it, sorry. One of my friends teaches them to lay down, but I don't know how. I think she teaches it from the bow...put that puts them on their sides. Oh well. Sorry I can't help, and sorry I misunderstood your first post!! Oops
Not a problem! We have all done it before, no biggie. I just wanted to correct you before someone else read your response and started responding with something that wasn't necessary

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Yup that's how I'd do it first. Teach them to bow and kinda rock them over to their side. Don't force them just more nudgingly suggest it ya know? :)
I completely understand. Thanks for the suggestion.

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I don't have a video, but I would begin with teaching him to bow.

That one is easy. Pick up one leg, and put a treat at his knee, then pull the treat back, to get him to bend down like that.. once his is comfy with being down, and staying at the bow (soon you won't need to hold his foot) but then you can test him back more.

Then, don't push them over, but simply pull their withers toward you.

Another way is the endorphin tap. It does not hurt the horse, but you may want someone to guide the horse trough it the first three times, then he will drop more quickly, and soon you can just stand at his side, and pull one rein back, then he will fall, and you can mount.

You can go to youtube.com on how to properly do the endorphin tap, as I have only done it once, and don't want to risk any safety.
Wonderful! That's exactly the kind of help I was hoping to get. All the videos I saw online only seemed to really force to do the laying down, which is not how I like to handle tricks or anything else for that matter. That's an excellent idea.
I think I will definitely start off with what you suggested. It will take longer but it will be less traumatic so to speak than doing the way I have seen over and over all over the web. An idea I wasn't comfortable with. Thanks again!
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I'm teaching my horse to lie down...
Its hard 'cause Im so small compared to him.

I've tied his leg with a lead rope and pulled it up so he's standing on three legs, and cross the rope over his neck to pull his head down and it worked. Sorta... he went half down, but I couldnt get his hind end down.... he had no problem doing it.. just.. don't know how to get the other half of him down. Mind you I used a soft cotton lead rope.

Also I only tried this for a short period of time I don't want to stress him out. So.. about 15 min.
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I taught my horse to lie down. First I taught her to bow. Just pick up a leg and every time he bends release and reward him. Once he's got the bowing down just ask him to go a little farther and he should drop right down. I geuss it might not work for every horse but I worked with mine. I could send you a video if you would like :)
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