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post #21 of 31 Old 04-17-2013, 02:27 PM
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A show will be called a hunter/jumper show because it hosts both hunter and jumper classes. Which again, are two different things.

You will not enter a class called hunter/jumper.
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[QUOTE=Foxhunter;2262257]I start any horse that has to jump the same way - poles, small fences and grids. [\QUOTE]

What types of grids do you like to do? Just basic 1 or 2 stride grids?

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I don't know where that definition came from, but it certainly wasn't the USEF rule book or the USHJA.

"Equitation" means the rider is judged. There are hunter seat equitation classes, the acme of which are the Medal and Maclay classes and there are jumper based equitation, like the Marshall and Sterling or the Pessoa Medal, but they are still judged on the rider, but over a jumper style course. Judged on equitation, rather than purely on faults and time.

I have never heard equitation referred to as a hybrid between hunters and jumpers before, and am not sure I understand the reasoning.
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A show will be called a hunter/jumper show because it hosts both hunter and jumper classes. Which again, are two different things.

You will not enter a class called hunter/jumper.
I never said you enter a class called hunter/jumper. I said that's a type of show

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By that criteria, Western Pleasure and Showmanship are the same discipline because they're seen at the same shows. I don't quite understand why you're lumping hunters and jumpers together, as they're two completely different disciplines.
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HUNTER/JUMPER is what some shows are called. Shows like GOHJA are hunter/jumper shows. They are shows that have hunter classes along with jumper classes. I am not saying hunter/jumper is a type of discipline, I am saying there is SHOWS that have both types of those classes, and call themself hunter/jumper shows.

I'm not sure why this is such an important thing to talk about, as I was asking for peoples jump training methods.

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It's just confusing; some of us aren't sure how to answer as you're asking how "hunter/jumper" horses are trained, which is akin to asking how WP/showmanship horses are trained. I'm not sure if you're looking to hear about eventers and hunters, or eventers and jumpers. That's all
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Foxhunter... That first video that you posted of the grey, to me looks like a jumper horse, going over hunter type fences. But, I do live on the other side of the pond. S/he is lovely over fences though. I was surprised at the missed leads in a few of the corners though, at that level/height. Working Hunters are judged? Is that a fault against a horse, or is that just a North America thing?

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It's just confusing; some of us aren't sure how to answer as you're asking how "hunter/jumper" horses are trained, which is akin to asking how WP/showmanship horses are trained. I'm not sure if you're looking to hear about eventers and hunters, or eventers and jumpers. That's all
I'm asking how you train a horse to jump, when you are training a horse to jump. Especially to be an eventing horse. All i'm trying to learn is how other people train their horses to jump.

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Foxhunter - Nice to see the video of Dancing Hero and also Casper as that girl has done so well with him to turn him from total idiot into a horse showing at that level
UK Working hunter classes are more about a horse that goes clear in a good forward going style and looks like a pleasure to ride than one that gets it foot perfect in the way of maybe a dressage test, over the years the courses do seem to have become tighter and that's making horses have to 'show jump' around which I'm not so keen on. The horses also have to perform an individual show on the flat, get unsaddled and run up in hand then inspected for conformation and ridden by the judge
I'm a bit confused about the hunter jumper thing - are these maybe just a US class because they do seem to exist here and are very popular
Is it maybe the difference in what we have in the UK between Ridden Hunters (not shown over jumps) and Working Hunters that are? They all have to look as if they'd do a days hunting though and I have to agree with Foxhunter that the horses in many of the classes I've seen here that are called hunters look like they'd fall flat at the first mud patch.
This has to be something to do with the actual riding style being called 'hunt seat' I imagine and nothing to do with them actually being (fox) hunters
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