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post #161 of 299 Old 07-03-2012, 10:42 PM
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Generally when they wring their tail like that they are uncomfortable, mad or both. What you have to do is figure out what is causing the problem. If my horses do that it's because I didn't get the saddle or pad set right. For your horse? That's for you to figure out, things to check: Ill fitting saddle, wore out pad, bit not adjusted right, pulling on the reins to much, etc, etc. The list of what you could be doing wrong is pretty darn log. But I will say there's some attitude in there too, no way she should be trying to ditch her rider because she's not comfortable which is where mad comes into play.

Try this, have your friend tack up the horse and watch her then try riding to see what happens. If she's improved then you had best darn learn what you are doing wrong tacking up. Second, have someone film you and your friend riding. Whatch those videos and see what difference there is between riding styles.
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post #162 of 299 Old 07-09-2012, 07:07 PM
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I agree that an ill fitting saddle causes so much bad behavior in horses.

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post #163 of 299 Old 07-10-2012, 12:48 PM
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Now THAT is sound training advice!!! THANKS!!
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post #164 of 299 Old 07-12-2012, 09:29 AM
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Smile Thanks you

Thanks for the post, I am brand new to the horse business, I'm 47 and having my own horse has always been a dream of mine. Several months ago I decided to just "do it". So I searched every site, and found not only a horse for me but one for my 8 year old. Next week both horse are coming home. My husband is completely supportive and has been helping to get everything ready, pasture, barn, stalls, etc. I've been reading everything I can on horses, re. buying, feeding, keeping, riding, training. I have no hands on experience and my husband has very little. I am a little nervous about everything and I don't want that to be past on to my horse. Any more advice you have will be greatly appreciated.
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post #165 of 299 Old 07-15-2012, 12:42 AM
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This is an awesome post.

If the rider is looking at a 'booger', you can bet that the horse is going to be looking at it, too. Many people 'spook' worse than their horse. They are looking for scary objects down the trail before their horse is. If that is part of a rider's problem, they need to learn to ride far ahead of where they actually are.

I just want to share a little bit about my own experience with spooking my horse. My horse and I compete in extreme trail so it is very important that I take the lead with her and keep her trust. I am a very confident rider so I never grasped this spooking your horse business until last winter. In my neck of the woods we have a lot of dog teams I didn't realize just how many (we moved out here a year ago) until last winter when they all started showing up and riding their sleds with their teams down the same trails I was riding on. The first couple times we just jumped off trail and let the mushers on by. she was nervous but I kept her calm and she eventually got over it.

Until one day when it was snowing really hard the wind was blowing making it nearly impossible to hear, and a musher came right up on us. Now most of the mushers will stop and wait if they know you can't hear this guy was not so kind and let his dogs get close enough that they were snapping at my horses back legs. She spooked and jumped off trail nearly unseated me crashing through the woods but I got her under control and turned around just in time to see that the musher no longer had control of his dogs and they were surrounding the other horse I was riding with. They were snapping and biting at her, She came out okay but it scared the crap out of me. After that every time I saw a musher I spooked, and would send my horse galloping to the other side of the trail or galloping ahead so I could turn down a different road. It was insanity but I couldn't seem to stop myself, all I kept seeing is what could have happened, how badly injured my horse could have been.

It is really hard to focus on what you are suppose to be doing when you are so hyper focused on the what if. I was no longer riding my horse in the moment I was riding her in the what if. It didn't really sink in until I got us into trouble bolting away from a musher it was too slick but I wasn't paying attention to the road I was watching the musher I was running from; my horse nearly fell down, and both of us could have been really injured. I knew then I was going to have to do something about the whole thing. So I confronted my fears in order to get over it and it wasn't easy. I asked a neighbor who mushed if I could ride behind him and then in front he was kind enough to let me. I was a wreck my horse was a wreck but after doing this three times I was able to get it under control. The minute I relaxed and calmed down her head went right down and her body went from ridged to soft it was amazing. Now I still jump when a musher comes up on us unexpectedly, but it is getting smaller every time it happens and now my horse is stepping off trail not bolting into the woods.
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post #166 of 299 Old 07-15-2012, 04:24 PM
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Amazing tips that will be used thanks!

I have been bumped and bruised, but my horse is still my best friend!
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post #167 of 299 Old 07-16-2012, 02:29 PM
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lives2hope, I can totally sympathize with your experience. Most of the mushers around here are fabulous, but one lady has no control over her sled and dogs. They came upon us on a very narrow section of the trail, we said hang on a sec while we get off the trail, takes a minute in the deep snow and thick trees, she stopped and then for some reason let the dogs go. My horse's front feet were bouncing through the traces as we were trying to get out of the way, he was kind of doing this hop up with his front feet and the dogs were snapping at his legs. It was a horrible vision I will never forget, in a blink of an eye you think your horse might get crippled for life. The horses coming on the trail behind me were half off the trail and the snapping dogs missed their legs by millimeters. Don't get me wrong, I don't see sled dogs as viscous in temperament but they sure snap when sledding.
We quit riding on that trail because it was such a traumatic experience. Very impressed that you found such a pro active way to conquer the situation.
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post #168 of 299 Old 07-19-2012, 08:14 AM
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Juniper you don't know how lucky you are most of the mushers here are nice but there are several with what I call attitude to say the least. They don't think that horses should be allowed on their trails or any of the trails they might use. Several have purposefully tried to scare us off the trails. I am pretty sure that this is what that guy was trying to do and his dogs got out of control. I forgot to mention that this was a double trail he could have easily moved to the other trail and passed right on by us like the three mushers before him did. The huskies are fine dogs but they are raised with a very strong pack mentality, a lot of these dogs have had very few human interactions. They are more then capable of biting a horse especially in a pack, at least most that I know, I have worked with a lot of them in rescue. So just be careful it is a very real danger to your horse.
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post #169 of 299 Old 07-21-2012, 12:38 AM
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I know how you feel but here it's snowmobiles. And it INFURIATES me because we ride in a provincial park and they HAVE their own bloody trails to ride down, but do they leave ours alone? NOOOOOO. The bridle path is literally big enough for two horses to ride side by side. Last winter, we heard of a terrible accident when a kid came flying around a turn and smashed full on into a horse and rider. I'm not sure how bad the injuries are, but I don't imagine THAT person is ever riding down the trails in winter again. I don't even know why we go because I spend the entire time nervous and on edge and obviously my horse feels that. They aren't afraid of snowmobiles but that can change in a second if we have to try and make room for some (@*^#^@& flying by us at 100 miles an hour.

The next time I see one, I'm making a barricade and taking down plates. It's flat out ILLEGAL for them to be on our trails in winter. Most people are already annoyed that they're allowed in the park at all.

I hope God tells her to smash her computer with a sledgehammer.

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post #170 of 299 Old 07-24-2012, 10:20 AM
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Thanks that was a great post.
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