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    11-07-2012, 03:59 PM
  #211
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Thought you may like to see how we use our horses at times in the UK. These are the ones we 'desensitise'. Can you imagine trying this out for the first time and riding through it on an inexperienced horse?
Firstly, I only watched the first few minutes so I don't know what else happened.

Secondly, we are not talking about police horses here, but trail horses. Of course I agree that some degree of prior training is required, and the police choose to use desensitizing, which I have never said doesn't work. It is a perfectly effective training method.

Thirdly, I would not take an 'inexperienced horse' in a situation like this, it would be a recipe for disaster. They may not have been in this exact situation before, but I would want my horse to have been in plenty of scary situations before and learnt to trust my judgement when scared.

Fourth, I honestly believe I could take my gelding in a situation like that and still have control. Sure he would be looking around, maybe jogging with the exitement, but that would be about it. The bangs wouldn't be a huge deal as I crack a stockwhip off my horses. The screaming is about the same as he dealt with when he competed in world mounted games here a few years ago.

*Shrugs* Not purposefully desensitizing is not wrong. It is a different way of doing things that also works. None of us (I think!) have said that what you do is wrong, or doesn't work. How can you say that about our method when you obviously don't use it?
     
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    11-07-2012, 04:04 PM
  #212
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Different countries have different sitautions to expose their horse to
Of course they do! I have just gotten back home after working on a cattle station in the Pilbara for six months. The horses there have to deal with a helicopter coming in to about 2 metres above their heads and stirring up the dust to get the cattle yarded up, and bull buggies smashing tress down right in front of them chasing feral cattle, and Iron Ore trains that are kilometres long roaring down the tracks in front of them.

They deal with completely different situations than my horses here at home. Yet no matter the situation, generally good training will get the same results if it is done properly. Whether that be desensitizing, or 'riding through' (For lack of a better term).
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    11-07-2012, 05:52 PM
  #213
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Obviously people have different ways of doing things and I'm not convinced that it has anything to do with where you live or where you ride. If it works for you then that's good.
I only moved to the US 5 years ago and it was only when I came here and became more aware of Clinton Anderson & Parelli that I even heard of the word desensitise as a means of getting a horse used to things. I've actually asked a few of my horsey friends over there today if they are familiar with the term or use this method of training but they don't - though one has a neighbour who's a Parelli fan and she is always using the word though rarely ventures out of her menage. I'm sure it might be something that's caught on over there in more recent years but its not something I grew up with and we bred and broke our own horses, broke horses for other people and always had to ride on busy roads.
The police are very selective about the horses they buy and choose for temperament. I've attached a couple of pics of a horse we bred and sold to the police. On the one he is 2yrs old, I used to show him 'in hand', there was a rifle range near this ground shooting all day and as you can see he was totally unconcerned. It was this attitude that made him apealing to the police. We watched him in several of his training sessions and he never even flinched or looked at anything even first time around. He was reverse champion one year and would have won but he gave the camel a 'look' before he walked past it. His rider said it was more out of disgust. Don't get many camels in the UK!!! Pic with him in the middle is from a newspaper cutting so not great
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    11-13-2012, 11:07 PM
  #214
Weanling
Thank you so much for the info its very helpful!
     
    11-15-2012, 02:56 AM
  #215
Foal
Great post and very informational for me, I'm just now learning :)
     
    11-17-2012, 09:30 PM
  #216
Banned
Nice info.. I've had my nice encounters trying to train my horses :)
     
    11-17-2012, 10:49 PM
  #217
Foal
Thanks so much. Now I am going England to buy new horse. And learn the new tip that how Tran the new hoers.
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    11-18-2012, 09:46 PM
  #218
Foal
My guy is such a siss.
     
    11-21-2012, 04:47 PM
  #219
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Bluebird    
IT makes interesting reading and some of what you say makes absolute sense. The problem that we have in England is that our horses have to have 'road sense'. We have to ride them in traffic sometimes with double decker buses and large lorries passing within a few feet of them. If we get in trouble, we can't ride them through it as there is nowhere to go so we have to do 'de-sensitisation'. Although I know what you are saying about spooky horses, de-sensitising DOES work too but it really depends on what you are using the horse for. Wish we had 'trail rides' and didn't need to do any road work at all, ever! You guys are so lucky to have all that open space.

LOL I live in a rural area with lots of mountain riding within 15 min drive...and we love it however we have deer, elk and the occasional lions & tigers & bears oh my ...that like to pop out of the brush...conditioning for where you ride I think is very important so at least the expected isnt a disaster lol
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    11-25-2012, 05:02 PM
  #220
Foal
I like this! I am looking for a horse, but when I get one, I will definitely try training my horse with this! There is a lake with several nice trails nearby that I will practice on.
     

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