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post #71 of 299 Old 11-25-2011, 08:55 PM
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Hello Cherie,

I have been reading this thread with great interest. My focus is to create a trail horse like you describe. Can you recommend a book(s) or web site that teaches the techniques you use in your training? I'm especially interested in instilling confidence in my horse, as well as myself, as the rider.

Sorry if you have already answered this in a previous thread.

Thanks!
I went to a Ken Mcnabb trail clinic and learned a tremendous amount with some of these same principles.
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post #72 of 299 Old 11-26-2011, 10:50 PM
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Key point here is that the respect for rider leadership MUST be established before going out where the fear level is raised. If the horse questions your leadership in peaceful familiar surroundings, that lack of respect will be escalated "out there"! To be safe, develop that responsiveness and respect at home, then begin working past the boundaries of the horse's comfort zone. I love Cherie's post!! right on! We have to remember that a horse acts badly with his human either through disrespect or fear and it is our job to discern which is taking place. I believe Cherie is saying that if the horse has a proper respect for us as leaders, that respect will translate into trust and the fear factor will be put into place under that trust. The horse may be afraid but because he respects and trusts our judgement he will be more willing to "do it" afraid. Think of the herds in the wild: they follow the lead brood mare and don't even hesitate about following her because to leave the herd would put their lives in danger.
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Serendipitous: In response to your post about your horse and the barbed wire...this is a case of knowing your horse. We had a BLM mustang my daughter rode and he did the same thing one day on the trail but it was so out of character for him that my daughter did examine the trail ahead and there was a rattler coiled up just a few yards ahead on the side of the trail. This mustang had lived in the wild for two years of his life and knew trails so it was, this day, a case of mutual trust. He warned the rest of the riders of the danger ahead and they went on and had a great ride. So knowing your horse is a big part of it. We had an Arabian who was the Sunday ride; he was so watchful, he'd step carefully over a dark line in the path and we could drop the reins on him and just trust him for a safe ride. He was an awesome trail horse! He was watchful and careful where his feet went but never spooky or balky. He loved to get out. Those are the true pleasure horses who take care of their riders... then there are others .... lol... who make us work for it.
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post #74 of 299 Old 11-29-2011, 06:49 PM
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look on Amazon for a handbook named Basic Training for a Safe Trail Horse. It costs $10 or less and show how to use patience rather than fear factors to teach horses. It works!
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post #75 of 299 Old 11-30-2011, 07:05 PM
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cherie, luv'd your post!!!! we do alot of trail riding and ive seen people let their horses pick the pase and check out everything, i just pass them, but have noticed they r the ones that need help x-ing any and all water, slash piles ect...i guess i didnt realize my mare and i blow by it cuz im not scared of it so eather should she be :) if she hesitates i just move her forward i guess i never thought to much about it or why...i can see it now, your so write!!!
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Key point here is that the respect for rider leadership MUST be established before going out where the fear level is raised. If the horse questions your leadership in peaceful familiar surroundings, that lack of respect will be escalated "out there"! To be safe, develop that responsiveness and respect at home, then begin working past the boundaries of the horse's comfort zone. I love Cherie's post!! right on! We have to remember that a horse acts badly with his human either through disrespect or fear and it is our job to discern which is taking place. I believe Cherie is saying that if the horse has a proper respect for us as leaders, that respect will translate into trust and the fear factor will be put into place under that trust. The horse may be afraid but because he respects and trusts our judgement he will be more willing to "do it" afraid. Think of the herds in the wild: they follow the lead brood mare and don't even hesitate about following her because to leave the herd would put their lives in danger.


i was told once and it has just stuck with me "you dont let your car make decissions on were u r going,so dont let your horse, keep in the drivers seat"...i think of that when my mare thinks she'd like to make her own decissoins, when her and i first started out i wasnt so good at driving :), but now after time she trusts me and me her, makes a world of differance
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Thanks so much!
I will be doing this with Bliss very soon!
really great job...!!!
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Thanks! It was great =)
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post #79 of 299 Old 12-07-2011, 08:26 AM
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Cherie,

I really want to thank you. Almost since I got my horse two years ago, I have had confidence issues while riding her. It's been an ongoing struggle, one I've thought about giving up the more we go along, and I almost did give up this summer and sell. It may not have been a necessarily bad thing to "give up", as she is a lot of horse and I have had a lot of grief over her in the past years, but I felt like if I gave up with her, a horse without vices, honest, willing, and brave even if she is a bit hotter, I'd be giving up on myself and any ability I have to ride and work with horses.

And then you posted this, and I have read it more times than I can count. The combination of this and the skills my new trainer is giving me gave me the confidence to say: "Ok, I think I can start riding her again."

I've been taking her out on the trail every day I can. She is not perfect, a lot of stuff has to do with her 'new-ness' to it, but even when things aren't going exactly as I would like or had planned, I still find success in my rides. Not because I need the tips you posted to handle her, but because the tips you posted give me the confidence to be able to honestly tell myself: "It's alright, I know what I'm doing. I can handle this."

So I just wanted to thank you, again and again. Thank you! I know I'm not miraculously cured of my unconfidence; I am likely going to have some days where I slip back to my old thinking, but so far, I have met nothing but success and I'd like to say that at least part of it is your doing.

-C.P.
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Two things you said Cherie were super helpful to me. The one about working the horse in tough terrain. I sort of assumed there was not much I could do on our narrow wooded trails when my horse gets spooky and his mind is anywhere but on me. I rode him the other day, after much time off, and he is generally a bit spooky anyway, plus it was a cold day. As soon as I felt him the littlest bit tense up, off into the woods we went. I mean scrambling up steep, down steep, with lots of tangled brush and trees. Circled anything I could find. Instead of thinking I needed a smooth open road to work on I relished the rougher terrain. Second helpful part was riding in my mind, way past where I was actually going. Kept us more forward for sure. You know, I could tell my horse was enjoying the ride and was very relaxed and so was I. I think the best trail ride we have had yet.
Thanks for your well written, informative, detailed post!

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