And I think she meant in terms of discipline such as giving a horse a good swat when they deserve it.
not picking on you or your barn manager but ...just about the statment as i have heard many people use it before.
The one reason i think actually hitting or kicking or whatever as a way of disapline is incorrect is because of this statment. A horse doesnt deserve it, ever, every action it does is a reaction to what the human has done or to somthing in its immediate surroundings.
Purely done from what it has or hasnt been taught at present. for example: If a horse is pushy it doesnt deserve a kick in the gut to make it get out of your space, it would have been taught to be that way so it shouldnt be punished for someone elses mistake. And while a horse may kick at purhaps a pushy horse to get it out of its space , it doesnt give us the right to do the same. As like i said before there would be many other warning signs us humas would miss before hand.
But im not saying im all high and mighty , as yes i have hit a horse before, but that was in the past , i have now changed and learnt new ways to deal with problems that arise. As hitting doesnt solve the problem to do that you have to find out what caused it and prevent it from happening again, not try and ' quick fix ' it afterwards.
And another thing to concider, horses and many other animals dont show pain the same way humans do. A horse is a prey animal if it shows to much if any pain it is sure to fall prey to predators....as its instincts tell it.
heh woops i got a bit off topic tho, wasnt about disipline...was about being able to hurt them but i just wanted to say that :roll: .
this is a very intreaging topic tho i must say, and some good points brought up too.