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post #1 of 10 Old 05-29-2009, 12:36 AM Thread Starter
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I just got a gorgeous sorrel pinto about 2 months ago and i was warned that she was a little hyper, which i am now aware of. Her pervious owner kind of abused her and made her very face shy, the owner sold her back to the barn she bought her at and the barn either used her on trail or barrel raced her so she is only really used to going slow and going full out which may add to her always trying to go very fast when i dont want her to and when i try to stop her it takes her a long time and also she kind of bounces and goes crooked. I've accomplished alot with her in these past 2 months, ive gotten to be able to pet her face and clean it and she is some what letting me touch her ears. But this speed is a big issue and eventually when the day is done i am really annoyed that i cant figure it out. Any tips? Maybe a thinner bit? (she rides western by the way)

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I love her to death already and really want to figure this out!
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post #2 of 10 Old 05-29-2009, 12:38 AM
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I'd say find a trainer and have them give you some good training so you know how to handle the issues when they pop up.
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post #3 of 10 Old 05-29-2009, 11:08 AM
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There's all sorts of things that could be causing this, but one thing to consider is looking at her diet. If horses get more grain/high energy stuff than they really need, it sometimes causes them to be more hyper, flighty, or difficult to handle.
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post #4 of 10 Old 05-29-2009, 03:38 PM
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Beautiful girl :) What are you feeding her?
Some horses don't handle stuff like oats and sweet feed well, and henceforth get hot and harder to handle.
You want to either look into getting a grain were the horse gets energy from vegetable fats (Purina Strategy is what I use). Or, taking her off grain completely and giving only supplements.

Weight wise, she could be fitter, but otherwise looks just fine.

As for wanting to go-go-go, I would suggest, if possible, doing simple patterns at a walk with her. My own gelding is quite high strung and spooky, and merely walking patterns around trees relaxes him, and makes him more responsive and easier to ride.
It takes a little while, but generally after about 10-15 minuets I find that the horse stops trying to rush and goes along quietly and easily. It varies from horse to horse, some calm down quicker than others.
After I feel that he is calm and connected (listening to what I'm saying to him) I do brief stints of trotting in between the trees (or barrels, poles, cones) at random times. If he starts trying to rush and get his head all up in the clouds, it's back to doing those simple patterns again :)

Patterns have worked wonders for my nine-year. He once down-right exploded at the sight of a marriage mobile and was rather difficult to stop. After he was stopped, turned around, and back out were he was before I continued circling trees. He went from wide-eyed-tremble-hyper-rushing-gotta-go-gotta-go to relaxed, calm, and enjoyable.

Good luck with your girl, she has absolutely beautiful eyes.

Wait! I'll fix it....
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post #5 of 10 Old 05-30-2009, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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She doesn't get any grain actually, she is still boarded at the place i bought her from and they say she doesnt need any because she is very healthy, so that couldnt be the case! But the patterns sound good, i do that already with her alot but eventually she gets fed up with them, she can be very stubborn. Today actually she was rearing because she didn't want to go by herself for a few seconds. Some days are really good with her and then others feel like i'm starting all over again with her.

Thanks for the advice!
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post #6 of 10 Old 05-31-2009, 01:34 PM
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How old is she?
I know some younger horses only have three gears: stop, walk, RUN!

How fast can you go before she decides to go full out?
Will she let you trot?

If you can at least get her to trot, try lots of transitions. Walk, stop, trot, walk. Try doing these in circles, figure eights, serpentines, anything you can think of. This way it'll keep her guessing, and you can teach her to be more responsive too.
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post #7 of 10 Old 06-01-2009, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah i do that but once she starts at a trot, its like shes thinking "ok time to go next time i feel pressure" so after i put her to a walk she starts to try and go faster and i finally get her to just walk and stop tyring to speed up and then finally when i want to go back to a trot the slightest touch and she jumps like right into canter and then i pull back and she goes into a really fast trot and then i can slow her down to a slow trot for a little bit but then she'll just keep tyring to go faster and faster and when i do canter with her she always speeds up. It seems she really doesnt know her speeds, even when im doing different circles and tigns with her she still goes fast, she's a pretty smart horse, actually really smart but very stubborn. And she is 7 years old.
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post #8 of 10 Old 06-02-2009, 12:09 AM
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She's not stubborn, she's doing exactly what she's been trained to do. And in my personal opinion, from what you've posted, it doesn't sound like you're experienced enough to really bring her around. I could be wrong, just the impression I got.

I've dealt with many horses like this, and it will take months upon months, if not years to bring her around. Horses are flight creatures, so the minute a human teaches them that bad things happen if they don't run, we instantly become predators to them - and that takes an enormous amount of time and patience to work out of a horse. She's learned that a human on her back means run for her life because from your description it doesn't sound like anyone with much common sense has handled her previous to this.

A harsher bit is the absolute LAST thing you need. This has absolutely nothing to do with her not having "woah". I had an abused Arab mare that could be ridden in an enclosed area in the gentlest of snaffles and the softest of hands. Get her out on the trail and you'd be lucky to stop her with a high ported long shanked curb. I frankly don't believe there is such thing as "hard mouthed" horses - a horse will only be as hard as the hands guiding it. Even the "hardest" of mouths can be brought back to a refreshing softness with the right technique and rider.

That being said, this mare needs to forget completely about trotting and cantering with a rider on her and be worked solely on learning to trust both the bit and the rider on her back. She needs work with flexion, and learning to give to the bit, not fighting against it in fear. And because of the damage already done, this is going to require someone with a LOT of experience.

Once she learns how to be round, how to relax, and how to give, then she can progress to learning how to do these things at a trot and canter.

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post #9 of 10 Old 06-20-2009, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
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I am glad to say that she is actually doing amazing now, the more i worked with her the better she has gotten. I think she was testing me becuase she had so many different owners and now i was a new one. But now i have her in control and we are starting to get a good bond already!
Thanks for the help everyone!
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one thing I haven't seen on here and that I recommend is lunging!
my TB gets hyper crazy when it's cool out and he hasn't been ridden in a while. when he gets like that we have an hour long lunging session, even older horses need a refresher sometimes. it helps her to understand what you want from her and builds a bond while working with her.

Anyone can train a horse with the right guidance, as long as your willing to listen, and by posting on here I'd say your determined to make your relationship with her work and in turn train her to be a better horse. I started training a wild, crazy pony when I was still a green rider, EXPERIENCE ISN'T EVERYTHING. You can "bring a horse around" with patience and constant work, see what works and what doesn't work for her, just be patient with her, she's had a rough start.

I believe in you. Go for it! Keep me posted!

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