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post #11 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 12:31 PM
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I am so glad to know the "time out" session helped you with your horse. Every chance you get do the same saddling and tying him then go do something else for a 1/2 hour or more. Sometimes more is better in this case of teaching a horse patience. If at any point you get worried he might get thirsty, a horse can go every 12 hours between needing to drink. That is not to say water should ever be withheld for any length of time. Always free choice is very important.
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post #12 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks a Mil!
I'm sure I'll have about a gajillion more 'unique' stories to share over the next few months, because my horse is like no horse I've ever owned or worked with before. Which is at the same time intimidating, frustrating and exciting. He's teaching me from the ground up, Hehehe.
I sometimes wish I had a trainer to run ideas by, but usually I'm flying solo at like midnight ( I go out pretty late on week nights due to work) and standing in the middle of the barn going ' What the hell just happened? How do I approach THIS one?'
I Love, Love, Love making that connection with Butch when we get our crap together, together. :)
I so appreciate the support, because people around here think I am insane... ( I might be...) but, I'm so sick of hearing 'Smack him, smack him!' So, thanks for listening AND for input! Stay tuned, I'm sure we're not far off another crisis, ha-ha.
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post #13 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
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I am so glad to know the "time out" session helped you with your horse. Every chance you get do the same saddling and tying him then go do something else for a 1/2 hour or more. Sometimes more is better in this case of teaching a horse patience. If at any point you get worried he might get thirsty, a horse can go every 12 hours between needing to drink. That is not to say water should ever be withheld for any length of time. Always free choice is very important.

Ahh, Thank you very much. I was just sitting here contemplating that. Wondering where I could put him that I could put his water, too. I will definitely stay on top of this as well, because it is something I can do stays within the realm of what I am trying to teach him right now. I'm trying to stick along one line and complete it before I move on, just so I know and he knows nothing is a bandaid fix, ya know. Thanks again, so excited to see my boy today, I can't wait for my daughter to get out of school!

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post #14 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 04:41 PM
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Dusty, if you don't want to carry a squeeze bottle around with you, use breath spray…works like a charm when timed right. I've also heard of using a squirt gun, but haven't tried it.
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post #15 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 04:43 PM
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as an aside, check to see he may have ulcers. i find two of my horses get girthy when they have ulcers from weather change, stress, etc.

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post #16 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 05:00 PM
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Ha great idea! I am gonna try it on Lola...
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post #17 of 33 Old 03-16-2011, 07:26 PM
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Well considering the best training method is the one that works, I'd say you did great!

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post #18 of 33 Old 03-17-2011, 03:04 AM Thread Starter
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I just grabbed the squeeze bottle out of... like desperation. But, I am totally thinking the squirt gun now, because I bet it would totally work and I wouldn't have to my arm as much. I've never heard of breath spray, I am learning so many new things, I LOVE it, because Butch will NOT be my last problem baby, I'm sure.

He had only two 'moments' today and I didn't have to get the bottle close to him or point it at him at all, just the noise made him re think his little self. He stood perfect for his time out, only tried to open his stall door twice, and I was able to pick all his feet, which recently I have been a little nervous to, cuz he's a nut case.

Thank ALL of you guys for the support and for the absolutely wonderful ideas, as well. Even my BO today said 'What did you find an article about that or something?' I felt all smart, ha ha.

Now, onto feeling dumb...
CJ82Sky ? I've had the vet out and had him checked, numerous times, because his behavior shift was so sudden I just KNEW he was hurt somehow, some where, but I have been assured he is not. The vet will be coming again next week and I am going to make him go tip to tail again, no matter how many times he rolls his eyes at me.

The dumb question... How can I check for ulcers myself? I know, it's dumb, but I honestly have no idea. Is there something specific I look for or just signs?
I'm just wondering because I am once again stuck at the mercy of vets, etc. when I would like to be able to make sure of things for myself, ya know?

Thanks everyone!!!

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post #19 of 33 Old 03-17-2011, 05:34 AM
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Dusty: Didn't you say the cinch may have been the problem? Did you switch yet?

I love more non invasive approaches!

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post #20 of 33 Old 03-17-2011, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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Oh, I forgot to tell you guys that. Yeah, I switched it out and I desensitized him to it, then I switched it back. I saddled him up with both cinches and he did only have a problem with the leather one.

I used the leather one first, he nipped, I took it off, used the nylon one, no problem, and once I put the leather one back on he didn't have a problem again either.

It's not that I care which cinch we use, I actually would prefer the nylon one, but as long as it's not hurting him, I needed him to know that I wasn't GOING to hurt him and to trust me about it. He trusts me every where else, doing anything to him I want, any where on his body, which is why his suddent biting blew my mind.

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